Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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Rettam Stacf said:
The ignorant CNN reporter who wrote the article should stay on top of the medical development relating to the Covid-19 virus. In the last few days, a leading Chinese scientist discovered that recovered patients may still have traces of the virus that can continue to infect other people. He recommended that recovered patients should still self quarantine for 14 days. This explains the incidence in the CNN article.

Below are two news articles on the finding, one from Newsweek and one from SCMP.

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Calling such news media bias will not change their attitude. Countering them with facts will. FACTS DO MATTER.
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Or it can be a complete fabrication... I posted before of a person I know who's an animal rights activist pointing out to me about how Chinese citizens are criticizing the government's handling of this crisis. If this were true, are these the very same people who unleashed this virus by eating wild animals they shouldn't be eating? So who's the one that should be taking responsibility of their own actions? This animal rights activist didn't see that? Instead he wanted to point out to me how the government failed because citizens are complaining. In my opinion it was a fabrication or spin by the media that has an anti-China agenda. Just like how hard would it be for this video to be recorded anywhere in the world and lie saying it was taken in Wuhan? Just like those notes found in Made in China products from supposed workers claiming to being enslaved in China that plead for the West for help. Or I remember a journalist claiming to be in Tibet who claims he was in an empty police station and recorded a piece of paper taped to a wall that said in English that actor Brad Pitt was banned in Tibet. Why not in Chinese in a Chinese police station? Personally I know a guy since childhood and he's always resented that I'm not ashamed of being Chinese. So all these years I've known him whenever I come across him he'll try to slip in an insult about Chinese people. So recently we crossed paths and in conversation he brought up out of the blue how in China they were pouring Corona beer down the sink thinking that will stop the coronavirus. I said they don't drink Corona in China. His insult was like automatic because once I said that, he realized how embarrassingly stupid his comment was and told me to forget about it. He didn't site a news story or nothing. It just automatically popped-up in his racist little mind. These journalist are the same. They just know the conclusion of their story and they just make stuff up without thinking how their story leads there flawed logic and all.
 
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AssassinsMace said:
Or it can be a complete fabrication... I posted before of a person I know who's an animal rights activist pointing out to me about how Chinese citizens are criticizing the government's handling of this crisis. If this were true, are these the very same people who unleashed this virus by eating wild animals they shouldn't be eating? So who's the one that should be taking responsibility of their own actions? This animal rights activist didn't see that? Instead he wanted to point out to me how the government failed because citizens are complaining. In my opinion it was a fabrication or spin by the media that has an anti-China agenda. Just like how hard would it be for this video to be recorded anywhere in the world and lie saying it was taken in Wuhan? Just like those notes found in Made in China products from supposed workers claiming to being enslaved in China that plead for the West for help. Or I remember a journalist claiming to be in Tibet who claims he was in an empty police station and recorded a piece of paper taped to a wall that said in English that actor Brad Pitt was banned in Tibet. Why not in Chinese in a Chinese police station? Personally I know a guy since childhood and he's always resented that I'm not ashamed of being Chinese. So all these years I've known him whenever I come across him he'll try to slip in an insult about Chinese people. So recently we crossed paths and in conversation he brought up out of the blue how in China they were pouring Corona beer down the sink thinking that will stop the coronavirus. I said they don't drink Corona in China. His insult was like automatic because once I said that, he realized how embarrassingly stupid his comment was and told me to forget about it. He didn't site a news story or nothing. It just automatically popped-up in his racist little mind. These journalist are the same. They just know the conclusion of their story and they just make stuff up without thinking how their story leads there flawed logic and all.
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It’s hard to tell the difference between ignorance and malicious intent nowadays. This applies to all institutions in society. Are those journalists just stupid or are they propagandists? Is the government really that stupid or do they know exactly what they’re doing?
 
shanlung

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shanlung said:
What we all witnessing now is the first phase. The starting point of 2019 new corona virus in Wuhan and China.
And we seen the response made in quarantining and incredible speed of organising and building hospitals and facilities in holding and treatment.
And may in time, hold and halt this virus totally in China.
We also see the mocking and laughters and demonising of China's efforts , despicable cartoons in guise of free speech to laugh and the taking advantage of this to further rub the face of China in the mud.

BUT

The next phase is inevitable. Not that I wish for that to happen, but happen that will be.

That virus is now already in many countries and with the fore warnings given by China. Despit the warnings, are those countries capable and able and have the dedicated expertise shown by China in containing and holding and treating this virus? Can USA, or any other country , build hospitals from bare fields and equipt that in a matter of days?

Perhaps so, but sadly, not to the extent demonstrated by China.

In the days and weeks to come, that virus will be spreading and spreading in USA, in Denmark, in Europe , in Africa , India and Australia.
Chinese and China and all decent folks will sorrow and pray for them and help them best they can in USA, Denmark and others .
And maybe, hopefully, the insults and savage mockery they shown to China will stop as they all desperately trying not to be sick and die themselves.

Chinese and China and all decent folks will not be mocking and laughing and taking advantage or insulting them the way USA, Denmark and others had done and still doing to China in the initial crisis.


We will wait , and see.

Phase 2 is just starting.
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I wrote above on Feb 5, jsut about 3 weeks ago.

Good news is that China seems to be getting a good handle on covid19.

BUT
Bad news is that Phase 2 seems certain to get further and further along in the rest of the world.
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I am waiting for the butchers bill for Carnival in Rio to surface.
 
shanlung

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shanlung said:
I wrote above on Feb 5, jsut about 3 weeks ago.

Good news is that China seems to be getting a good handle on covid19.

BUT
Bad news is that Phase 2 seems certain to get further and further along in the rest of the world.
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I am waiting for the butchers bill for Carnival in Rio to surface.
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I am suprised lots of carnival, and not just in Rio.
May those folks get back with photos and souveniers and memories , and nothing else.

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Americans should prepare for coronavirus crisis in U.S., CDC says
Top U.S. public health officials said Tuesday that Americans should prepare for the spread of the coronavirus in communities across the country.

"It's not so much a question of if this will happen any more, but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness," Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the head of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said during a media briefing Tuesday

Measures to contain the virus in the U.S. so far have involved restricting travel to and from China — the center of the outbreak — and isolating cases identified so far in this country.
But Messonnier said that evidence that the virus is spreading countries outside of Asia, such as Iran and Italy, has raised CDC's "level of concern and expectation that we'll see spread" in the U.S.

As of Tuesday, more than 300 cases had been reported in Italy. Iran had nearly 100 cases.

"When you start to see sustained transmission in other countries throughout the world, it's inevitable that it will come to the United States," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told NBC News.

Messonnier cautioned Americans to prepare for disruptions to their daily lives, including school closings, working from home and delayed elective medical procedures, as efforts to contain and control the possible spread in the U.S. may accelerate in the coming weeks.
"We should all be dusting off our pandemic preparedness plans and rehearse them very quickly," Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University, said. "The core concept is social distancing."

This means that business leaders, for example, should start considering who can work from home. Perhaps the time will come, experts said, to observe religious practices and ceremony at home, rather than larger community gatherings at places of worship. And families should start asking themselves how they would handle a week or two at home, without traveling for food, medicine or entertainment.

"There has to be a shift in mindset," Dr. Bruce Aylward, team leader for the WHO-China joint mission on COVID-19, said during a media briefing Tuesday. Aylward and a group of international scientists —which included members of the U.S. CDC and National Institutes of Health — spent several weeks in China learning about the country's coronavirus response.

Aylward said that hospitals can help prepare for potential coronavirus spread by focusing on resources that would count most in keeping the most vulnerable patients alive: isolated hospital beds, ventilators to help people breathe and personal protective equipment for health care workers.
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