Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Quickie]

So the remaining 61% (n=3,591) is vaccine-related deaths out of 155,000,000 vaccinated people is only 0.00231%. That's neglible compared to COVID case fatality rate of 1.8%. In fact, COVID is almost 800X more deadly than the COVID vaccine itself.

Now that I have a bit of time to look into the numbers.

155,000,000/3591 ==> 1 fatalities in 43,163

This looks to be way too high for certain countries that have more successfully brought the outbreak under control like China, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, a few Southeast Asian countries, and probably more others.

Take the case for Singapore currently.

5,000,000/36 ==> 1 fatalities in 138,889!

The country could theoretically end up with 3.2 times the current fatality at the completion of the vaccination due to the vaccine side effects.

 

[B.I.B.]

Now that I have a bit of time to look into the numbers.

155,000,000/3591 ==> 1 fatalities in 43,163

This looks to be way too high for certain countries that have more successfully brought the outbreak under control like China, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, a few Southeast Asian countries, and probably more others.

Take the case for Singapore currently.

5,000,000/36 ==> 1 fatalities in 138,889!

The country could theoretically end up with 3.2 times the current fatality at the completion of the vaccination due to the vaccine side effects.

I understand Singapore has given up on eradicating Covid-19 and has decided on a policy of learning to live with it. AS such they won't be reporting on any more daily cases or deaths due to covid?

 

[KYli]

I understand Singapore has given up on eradicating Covid-19 and has decided on a policy of learning to live with it. AS such they won't be reporting on any more daily cases or deaths due to covid?

It isn't the official policy yet. Singapore is just studying and hinting that it might need to accept covid as an endemic and learn to live with it. However, any changes would be implemented until majority of Singaporeans are vaccinated which is months away.

 

[solarz]

Now that I have a bit of time to look into the numbers.

155,000,000/3591 ==> 1 fatalities in 43,163

This looks to be way too high for certain countries that have more successfully brought the outbreak under control like China, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, a few Southeast Asian countries, and probably more others.

Take the case for Singapore currently.

5,000,000/36 ==> 1 fatalities in 138,889!

The country could theoretically end up with 3.2 times the current fatality at the completion of the vaccination due to the vaccine side effects.

You forget that countries that have covid under control do so with draconian measures that are not sustainable in the long run.

Only vaccines can protect people if we want to return to normality.

 

[KYli]

50 out of 117 deaths are fully vaccinated. 67 out 117 deaths are not fully vaccinated. Roughly 50% of British are fully vaccinated. That means vaccines don't offer much in preventing deaths. It does better in preventing hospitalization. Anyway, these people still have the audacious to demonize Chinese vaccines effectiveness.

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Of those who were fully vaccinated who caught the Delta variant, 50 died,

The figure represents almost half of the total 117 deaths associated with the variant in the UK, where Delta now represents the overwhelming majority of cases.

1,320 were sick enough to spend a night in the hospital after catching the Delta variant. Of those, 190 were fully vaccinated - that is about 14%. 831, or a much higher 63%, were unvaccinated.

 

[Quickie]

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[robi]

You forget that countries that have covid under control do so with draconian measures that are not sustainable in the long run.

Only vaccines can protect people if we want to return to normality.

Yeah in Australia we are living like prisoners! Australia started as a convict country in 1788 and now we all feel like convicts .And people that have had both vaccines are still getting infected !

 

[KYli]

Taiwan doesn't have mass testing. There are roughly 9000 tests per million compare with 1.5 M per in the US or even low bar 300,000 tests per million in India. Many people even foreigners dropped dead in the street and later confirmed to be coronavirus. Many people tested negative for multiple times but later dead and confirmed to contract covid. With the help of MSM, Taiwan has gotten away with lies and fake news.

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[Phead128]

I'm aware of that. Still, these countries are facing the inevitable choice of having to vaccinate their population at the risk of the vaccine's side effects causing many more fatalities than the virus has already caused.

Vaccine-related deaths is 0.0014% compared to COVID-related deaths at 1.8%, which is over orders of magnitude more deadly. Over 3 Million died of COVID worldwide compared to only few thousand vaccine related deaths.

 

[robi]

Vaccine-related deaths is 0.0014% compared to COVID-related deaths at 1.8%, which is over orders of magnitude more deadly. Over 3 Million died of COVID worldwide compared to only few thousand vaccine related deaths.

Yeah and 350 million have died of influenza but still nobody has shut down borders and country's for influeza!