Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Sardaukar20]

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The West is back on that 'Wuhan biolab' BS again. The Chinese FM had to respond. Now with some added spice showing the US the mirror of its actual bio-warfare program.

Quoting a so-called leaked document obtained by the US State Department, which is actually a book that is openly on sale,

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There are always some in the US who smear China either by hyping up facts or quoting so-called internal documents or reports, but it is usually a case of "the guilty party filing the suit first", deliberate misinterpretation, presumption of guilt or merely spreading lies, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying said on Monday at the press briefing.

Media reports said the so-called leaked document obtained by US officials is a published academic book, and not an internal secret document from the Chinese military, Hua pointed out.

The quote from former US Air Force colonel Michael J. Ainscough in the book said next generation bioweapons will be part of the US Air Force projects and aim to help the country better cope with weapons of mass destruction, indicating that the US is carrying out biological warfare and bioterrorism using genetic engineering technology, Hua said.

The more the US pushes this 'Wuhan biolab' theory, the more its convincing me, that it's them who is doing the actual thing. Practically every horrible crime that they have accused China of doing have been committed by themselves already. The latest 'rocket crash disaster' crap is the yet another example.

 

[Tam]

Wuhan variant is not the progenitor of all the variant strains plaguing the world today. Rather it is already a strain or mutation of the progenitor virus. The Wuhan variant branch would dead end.

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Common ancestor​

This progenitor viral genome has three bases that differ from the Wuhan strains. The researchers think that both the Wuhan and other of the earliest genomes to be sampled were actually variants of the progenitor coronavirus (CoV), which diverged into ν and α lineages.

Diversity pre-existing the earliest case​

The Wuhan strain underwent three consecutive mutations, α1, α2, and α3, but these are not found in the closely related CoVs, all of which have the same base at these three positions. The ν variants of the progenitor CoV do not show the other 47 variants at these positions, making them unlikely to be the ancestral lineage for the Wuhan-1 virus or other early samples. The first ν mutant was picked up almost two months after the Wuhan-1 strain.

There were multiple occurrences of the progenitor CoV, both in China and the USA, from January 2020 onwards. Synonymous progenitor CoV samples were found in many other samples collected within two weeks of the Wuhan-1 strain.

While these were mostly Chinese and Asian (almost 90/130), they were found in all continents sampled and persisted up to April 2020 in Europe.

These findings suggest that the progenitor CoV was already spreading extensively before and after the first official reports of the emergence of a novel coronavirus in China. In other words, the Wuhan-1 strain is unlikely to be the original SARS-CoV-2 ancestor from which all currently circulating strains are derived.

 

[ansy1968]

It's really interesting how this Pandemic has played out so far. From the initial outbreak, to China's early missteps, to the "dramatic" lockdown of Wuhan and, to China beating its own outbreak, to South Korea, Italy, New York, to Trump's various tweets, to the race to develop vaccines, to the US celebrating that it had beaten China at vaccines, to China catching up in terms of vaccination speed and ramping up production, to India's outbreak, to WHO's approval of Sinopharm, etc etc.

This thread alone probably documented this whole pandemic really well. I'm really curious to see what's going to happen in the future.

I do know one thing for sure though, COVID-19 is not China's Chernobyl moment. Actually, quite the opposite might be true.

@xiabonan bro its XI shining moment, 2019 China is rilling from Trump trade war and sanction, Xi need time for his formulated strategy (Dual Strategy) to work then came the pandemic, Usually in critical and desperate times a leader will rose up and accept the challenge and he did so marvelously. And we also need to thank the foresight of his predecessor and party apparatchik to lend support in his ascension, their trust had been rewarded handsomely.

 

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[Strangelove]

Wuhan variant is not the progenitor of all the variant strains plaguing the world today. Rather it is already a strain or mutation of the progenitor virus. The Wuhan variant branch would dead end.

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This was known since last year, but no one had the balls to report the truth while the biolab conspiracy BS was still the narrative.

 

[xiabonan]

@xiabonan bro its XI shining moment, 2019 China is rilling from Trump trade war and sanction, Xi need time for his formulated strategy (Dual Strategy) to work then came the pandemic, Usually in critical and desperate times a leader will rose up and accept the challenge and he did so marvelously. And we also need to thank the foresight of his predecessor and party apparatchik to lend support in his ascension, their trust had been rewarded handsomely.

To be sure, every Chinese leader since Deng had faced their own 'COVID 19' moment. For Jiang Zemin it was the Asian Financial Crisis, the 1998 Floods which, coincidentally, also almost completely destroyed Wuhan (this is one of the reasons why Dr Zhong Nanshan said early in the pandemic that Wuhan is a city of heroes), the 1999 US boming of Chinese embassy in Belgrade, the 2001 collision with US EP3 plane over the SCS.

For Hu Jintao, there was the SARS outbreak of 2003, the 2008 GFC and Sichuan Earthquake and the 2009 Xinjiang Riots.

It is not a coincidence that Chinese leaders can rise to the challenge when the time comes, and lead the country out of crises more resilient than before and stronger than before.

 

[solarz]

To be sure, every Chinese leader since Deng had faced their own 'COVID 19' moment. For Jiang Zemin it was the Asian Financial Crisis, the 1998 Floods which, coincidentally, also almost completely destroyed Wuhan (this is one of the reasons why Dr Zhong Nanshan said early in the pandemic that Wuhan is a city of heroes), the 1999 US boming of Chinese embassy in Belgrade, the 2001 collision with US EP3 plane over the SCS.

For Hu Jintao, there was the SARS outbreak of 2003, the 2008 GFC and Sichuan Earthquake and the 2009 Xinjiang Riots.

It is not a coincidence that Chinese leaders can rise to the challenge when the time comes, and lead the country out of crises more resilient than before and stronger than before.

While all of the above is true, covid is the first time we are seeing a direct comparison between China and so-called developed nations.

 

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[KYli]

Have the Korean authority confirmed that their vaccines are effictive against the new mutations (Indian, Brazilian, African,UK strains etc.) that they are so confident?

Doubtful, it is just anyone's guess.

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[Kaeshmiri]

@xiabonan bro its XI shining moment, 2019 China is rilling from Trump trade war and sanction, Xi need time for his formulated strategy (Dual Strategy) to work then came the pandemic, Usually in critical and desperate times a leader will rose up and accept the challenge and he did so marvelously. And we also need to thank the foresight of his predecessor and party apparatchik to lend support in his ascension, their trust had been rewarded handsomely.

I remember how in February last year the West started invoking " Mandate of Heaven" to claim that CPC is about to be overthrown.
Fast forward a year and now they're moaning that CPC is taking over the World. Lol