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Well my wife in her zealousness downloaded Firefox 4. I do not like the layout. But I will say this ..it is a touch faster than the previous version.
 
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bd popeye said:
Well my wife in her zealousness downloaded Firefox 4. I do not like the layout. But I will say this ..it is a touch faster than the previous version.
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BP, if you don't mind talk about this a little bit more.

"Using which browser is better?" is like a question of "using which caliber is better? 5.56, 7.62, 6.8 or 5.8?" - It is an market (reserve) based / orientated question. - If you have BILLIONS of stockpile of 5.56 rounds, it is NOT THAT SIMPLE, to simply switch to 6.8 rounds; the same gose to brwoser.

Take my country for example, China is an un-imagiable-huge market of its own, believe or not, the e-community is mature enough, to put even the CREATOR (USA) in shame. That means "you follow the market, not the market follow you."

And China have a situation - that IE or IE core based browser, flood the market. It is not that firefox or Chrome or other browser can not be used. It is just - if you wanna surfe those Chinese sites (huge market, mind me emphasis again), keep in mind they optimized for IE.

There is this funny situation for a time, that Chinese governmental (or related) websites, only support IE6.0, HUGE AMOUNT OF commercial sites / website entities, have to specifically wrote xml development program, that allows THIS WEBSITE, running not only smoothly, but also fast, on, stuff like IE6.

I am not sure how many english lauguage websites has OPTIMIZED for stuff like firefox or chrome... but think this way: You having a laser rifle (which is GOOD), dose not guarantee you win the war. You have mentioned you have to do the job that from time to time, loading shitload like of pics in and out of certain websites - ever thinking that THEY have optimized for some other browser which is not the one you are using?

IT industry is an industry that if you ask them to jump, they ask you how high? - as long as you are their targeted mainsteam users. Being GOOD or FANCY, ain't the way around.
 
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solarz said:
Does anyone else miss the good old days where CPU quality could be measured by a number? How the hell do you choose a CPU nowadays?
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about choosing CPU...
well, dual core is basically the standard nowadays, and quad core if you need the extra power. In terms of gaming, quad core is not really needed at the moment, I run most of the new games on high graphics no problem. However, there are those CPU-intense games (such as MS Flight Simulator or Armed Assault 2) that would definitely benefit a lot from a quad core.

Personally I wouldn't get anything less than 2.5GHz because not all programs are made to use multiple cores.
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The "good old days" of "one number display, can tell you how good a cpu is," is rather a COMMERCIAL TRICK, that benifit the distributor (seller), not the end user.

A not-that-scientific-but-good-enough-for-dummies way to tell a cpu's quality, is to look (the product description / review) that tells "how many nano-meter manufactuering technology has been used on this cpu" - the small the better. I guess today's mainstream is 41nm, anyone?

Regarding the "multi-core" and "multi-threading" thing, like I mentioned in #393, it is market orientated, not "good or bad orientated". AMD crys out for "true multi-core"; while Intel commercials a lot on "my un-matched multi-threading capability". If certain game or demanding application performs better on THIS platform rather than THAT platform, it is only because they are "partner" of THIS cpu firm or THAT cpu firm.

Use AM3+ based motherboard and AMD graphic card, if you are using quad core AMD CPU and above; use LGA1366 based motherboard, and Nvidia graphic card, if you are using i7.
 
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Anyone aware of the current state of the job market for new graduates with a bachelors of science in computer science? What types of jobs are available? What companies are hiring? What are these companies looking for and what does the salaries look like?
 
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FriedRiceNSpice said:
Anyone aware of the current state of the job market for new graduates with a bachelors of science in computer science? What types of jobs are available? What companies are hiring? What are these companies looking for and what does the salaries look like?
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Are you in that position? :eek:
GL if so.

I have not much f an answer to your question though unfortunately. I only started uni a few months ago myself.
 
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FriedRiceNSpice said:
Anyone aware of the current state of the job market for new graduates with a bachelors of science in computer science? What types of jobs are available? What companies are hiring? What are these companies looking for and what does the salaries look like?
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Last weeks Businessweek has a interesting Kalaidescope for grads in America

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Outside of America My son and his mates most of whom are engineering and computer science graduates did not experience too much trouble finding jobs.
Lasy year a nephew of mine who is the CEO of a company specialsing in Hydrogen storage systems, said he was having to pay $A60.000 for new science/engineering grads in Sydney while my son and his friend from Jinan China both got offered in the mid $80's as fresh graduates for "Honeywell" in Perth.

His friend had a double degree, one in computer software and a engineering mechatronic's degree and was the top graduate so maybe he got a even better offer.. Mind you they both had different job offers to choose from and were playing one off against the other.

Meanwhile friends of theirs in software development seem to average around the $55,000 mark with increments of $5000 every 6months for the next two yrs upon satisfactory performance.

One of the employers so Im told, gives their employees a watch up to $3000 in value after 10yrs service. (geeze I thought you got that when you retired)
 
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bladerunner said:
Oh Good on You, So you decided not to go back to China to study. What are you studying?
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Thanks ^^
Bachelor of Science in Psychology and Stats at auckland uni
I actually never intended to go back to China, but I did start uni a year early, not doing 7th form in high school.
 
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By Alexei Oreskovic and Edwin Chan – 2 hrs 49 mins ago
SAN FRANCISCO/LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Hackers likely based in China tried to break into hundreds of Google mail accounts, including those of senior U.S. government officials, Chinese activists and journalists, the Internet company said on Wednesday.
The unknown perpetrators, who appeared to originate from Jinan in Shandong province, recently tried to crack and monitor email accounts by stealing passwords, but Google detected and "disrupted" their campaign, the world's largest Web search company said on its official blog.
The revelation comes more than a year after Google disclosed a cyber attack on its systems that it said it traced to China, and could further strain an already tense relationship between the Web giant and Beijing.
That incident also triggered a highly charged debate over the country's censorship and rigid control of the Internet. Google eventually all but pulled out of the world's largest Internet market by users.
"Investors would like to see Google figure out a way to operate in China, and capitalize on the growth of the country," said Cowen and Co analyst Jim Friedland.
"It's been a tough relationship. And this highlights that it continues to be a tough relationship," he said.
A U.S. government spokesman said it was looking into the incident but declined further comment.
"We recently uncovered a campaign to collect user passwords, likely through phishing," Google said in a post on its corporate blog on Thursday. "The goal of this effort seems to have been to monitor the contents of these users' emails."
It "affected what seem to be the personal Gmail accounts of hundreds of users, including among others, senior U.S. government officials, Chinese political activists, officials in several Asian countries (predominantly South Korea), military personnel and journalists."
NO OFFICIALS TARGETED?
The events leading to Goggle's withdrawal from China exacerbated an often difficult relationship between Washington and Beijing, with disputes ranging from human rights to trade.
The attacks revealed Wednesday were also the latest computer-based invasions directed at western companies. The United States has warned that a cyber attack -- presumably if it is devastating enough -- could result in real-world military retaliation, although analysts say it could be difficult to detect its origin with full accuracy.
Lockheed Martin Corp, the U.S. government's top information technology provider, said last week it had thwarted "a significant and tenacious attack" on its information systems network, though no signs pointed to a Chinese origin.
The White House said it was investigating the claims, but referred Reuters to law enforcement.
"We're looking into these reports and are seeking to gather the facts," said White House spokesman Tommy Vietor. "We have no reason to believe that any official U.S. Government email accounts were accessed. I'd refer you to FBI for additional details."
FBI spokeswoman Jenny Shearer said: "We are aware of Google's announcement regarding attempts to obtain passwords and gain access to these accounts. We are working with Google to review this matter."
Cyber attacks originating in China have become very common in recent years, said Bruce Schneier, chief security technology officer at telecommunications company BT.
"It's not just the Chinese government. It's independent actors within China who are working with the tacit approval of the government," he said.
While Google said last year's attack was aimed at its "corporate infrastructure," the latest incident appears to have relied on tricking email users into revealing passwords, based on Google's description in its blog post.
It said the perpetrators changed the victims' email forwarding settings, presumably secretly sending the victims' personal emails to other recipients.
Schneier said the details that Google has released about the email hijacking do not appear that unusual.
"For the past five years we've known that the Chinese conduct a lot of espionage over the Internet," he said.
The bigger question, he said, was why Google was choosing to publicize this attack now.
The company said it notified the victims and relevant governments.
"It's important to stress that our internal systems have not been affected -- these account hijackings were not the result of a security problem with Gmail itself," Google said.
The company's shares finished 0.7 percent lower at $525.60.
(Reporting by Alexei Oreskovic and Edwin Chan; additional reporting by Alister Bull in Washington D.C; Editing by Andre Grenon, Phil Berlowitz)
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