COMAC C919

latenlazy

Brigadier
Is this a CAAC problem, or a COMAC deficiency? 34 out of 276 tests sounds like C919 is years away from certification.
It just means their test management process is inefficient. This is also part of the learning curve for developing products. As they figure out better prices and management the speed should increase.
This is shit. It means they are way behind schedule even without sanctions.
Good news is this isn’t a technology issue. They can still keep iterating on tech while they figure out how to do the organization and soft skills part of the industry better.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
This is shit. It means they are way behind schedule even without sanctions.
Look. The silver lining is that at least the problem is only for certification tests (still serious but not the end of the world)

However as you said, this is without serious sanctions imposed (some sanctions may have affected it though)

I am pretty strong on hopium, so I say at minimum on 2023 the airplane will be certified
 

latenlazy

Brigadier
It just means their test management process is inefficient. This is also part of the learning curve for developing products. As they figure out better prices and management the speed should increase.

Good news is this isn’t a technology issue. They can still keep iterating on tech while they figure out how to do the organization and soft skills part of the industry better.
Better prices should say better practices*
 

latenlazy

Brigadier
Why don't they just perform the necessary tests? Is it from some official sources? The deliveries may start soon.
Testing involves setting up conditions, preparing your units for testing, collecting data, and then doing analysis. It’s not that they don’t “just” perform the necessary tests but that their process isn’t fast or efficient enough to meet their ambitious schedule. This is largely an experience problem.
 

longmarch

Junior Member
Registered Member
A lot of hype. China and commercial aircraft in the early 2020s is like Maoist China and agriculture & steel in the 1950s.
Is it technical, I don't know. The huge delay of ARJ-21 was because officials didn't know how to certify an aircraft.

At this point I don't know who to blame.

At least ARJ-21 was certified, Better than Japan where whole program was abandoned.

China had agreement with FAA that any certification would be mutual. This seems to have been broken by 787MAX? Anyway, if China still doesn't master what it takes to certify an aircraft, this agreement just become a joke.
 
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