yes. and as per the news. Five more will deliver soon.
COMAC is very serious about C919 and notified all suppliers about their production plans. interesting time ahead
COMAC C919
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COMAC is very serious about C919 and notified all suppliers about their production plans. interesting time ahead
Doesn't Boeing and Airbus having the same problem as COMAC in terms of relying on China's component? It doesn't matter the percentage of reliance, just stopping a rudder, leading edge or aft fuslage (Boeing parts from China) delivery will stop the whole planes production. Replacing these supplier means opening up new production lines (newly trained workers and toolings) which isn't easy nor quick. Nobody can afford stopping production for a year.
I think the "COMAC's reliance on west" is blown out of propotion by Chinese just like "West can strangle China" by the western propaganda.
Again, it's tiring to watch people complain and speculate about sanctions.
I have looked into ARJ-21 performance after several years of service and compared to another RJ type of aircraft here
here is a chengdu airlines operated ARJ-21
here is a Jetblue operated E90
And you will see that ARJ-21 is utilized quite a bit now. It's still not superb, but 6 hours air time a day is sufficient for a RJ. C919 will be expected to have higher air time than that and be expected to do R/T of 5 block hours both ways or 4 2+ hour flights a day.
Btw, here is ARJ-21 with TransNusa
not to bad. About 4 flights a day and 6 hours air time, similar to Chengdu airlines
I have looked into ARJ-21 performance after several years of service and compared to another RJ type of aircraft here
here is a chengdu airlines operated ARJ-21
here is a Jetblue operated E90
And you will see that ARJ-21 is utilized quite a bit now. It's still not superb, but 6 hours air time a day is sufficient for a RJ. C919 will be expected to have higher air time than that and be expected to do R/T of 5 block hours both ways or 4 2+ hour flights a day.
Btw, here is ARJ-21 with TransNusa
not to bad. About 4 flights a day and 6 hours air time, similar to Chengdu airlines
What is the production rate of C919? The market is big enough that they can take whatever COMAC can produce, eventually even just servicing existing planes alone will be a major revenue source.
Just a pet peeve but I used to be worried the C919 was going to look ugly
Turns out it was just COMAC's ugly paint job + unprofessional photographers
The photos/videos from the China Eastern flight look so incredible
Anybody have any more specific estimates for 2023-2028?
Turns out it was just COMAC's ugly paint job + unprofessional photographers
The photos/videos from the China Eastern flight look so incredible
According to this Jan 2023 article, 150 per year by 2028
Anybody have any more specific estimates for 2023-2028?
COMAC held a meeting with suppliers last month and notified them about their serial production plan.
Zhang Yujin, deputy general manager of COMAC publicly announced “We estimate that the [manufacturing] capacity for the C919 will reach 150 units annually within five years, or even more.
as per the local media, from 2025 onward 50 units of C919 will be produced annually.
COMAC planning to build 2 more assembly lines of C919. Xian and Nanchang have been selected. though locations not officially announced yet.
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Well, if they want to reach 150/yr by 2028, then they better be up to 50 by 2025. Keep in mind that managing supply chain is a huge part of raising production. Aircraft manufacturers frequently overbook delivery slots and have delays in delivery. So, don't be disappointed if they are behind in deliveries. As long s aircraft are performing well, that's the most important part
I would say that they need to get to a point where they can build 12 C919s in a factory per month. They shouldn't have to select a new site that often. It makes managing supply chain harder.
Xian getting a plant is great, because it would most likely allow Xian/Shaanxi AC to get involved and split the civilian/military costs and lower its military production cost.
Btw, I want to point out the fact that COMAC has now raised ARJ-21 reliability enough to consistently fly 4 segments and 6 air hours day is quite the feat compared to where it started off. ARJ-21 really has been invaluable in helping COMAC gain experience on working with airlines, supply chain and such
Airbus was a merger of several existing European aircraft manufacturers. For example French company Sud Aviation. That is one of the companies which made the Concorde. They also made the Caravelle in the 1950s. The HQ of Sud Aviation was in Toulouse, France. Guess where Airbus' main production facilities are to this day.
A week in and looks like these daily R/Ts on SHA-TFU is going pretty well. Consistently about 5 hours air time. It would be more interesting to hear from MU what the in service performance looks like
saw someone post this on weibo
I think this is still early. MU obviously would have quite a bit of data from its test flights also. But the 2 months pause in flying would be a concern for anyone. If they place a top up order soon, it would be a huge sign of confidence for the C919 program连续上班第8天，沪蓉线打卡第7天。听说菜家有下正式单了？
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Alright, a week of service on SHA-TFU. Looks good so far. 2nd C919 looks ready for test flights and delivery in a short time.
btw, you can follow here to see all the activities for COMAC aircraft
for example, the pre-delivery activities can be seen here for B-919A, which is MSN 00007
I do expect to see 8 in there soon, but it hasn't flown so far
also check this. i think it's important to note that delivered airline and owner aren't always the same. C919 has a bunch of orders from lessors. Those lessors can take deliveries until they find customers.
So far, looks like just 5 ARJ-21 deliveries this year after 34 in 2022, so they will likely speed that up later. Most of the deliveries last year was after July. That's pretty weird. Again, maybe waiting on customers.
Transnusa just got their 2nd ARJ-21
btw, you can follow here to see all the activities for COMAC aircraft
for example, the pre-delivery activities can be seen here for B-919A, which is MSN 00007
I do expect to see 8 in there soon, but it hasn't flown so far
also check this. i think it's important to note that delivered airline and owner aren't always the same. C919 has a bunch of orders from lessors. Those lessors can take deliveries until they find customers.
So far, looks like just 5 ARJ-21 deliveries this year after 34 in 2022, so they will likely speed that up later. Most of the deliveries last year was after July. That's pretty weird. Again, maybe waiting on customers.
Transnusa just got their 2nd ARJ-21