Chinese Video/Computer Games

Temstar

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What restrictions? There's pretty much only politics and also if they want to be rated under 18, on lewd content.

Look at wukong it's like 100% violence content. And also ghosts????? Literally never seen any source talk about it. Some 50% of wukong bosses are ghastly Buddhist inspired demons. Even fucking pg13 genshin has a ton of afterlife themed content.

Phantom Blade coming eventually with so far looks like more realistic gore than Sekiro.

The politics thing I've always felt should be completely removed. Media should be used to shape the narrative of politics and history.
It's true though, the rules from the censorer are vague and inconsistent. The way it works is if a piece of production has buy in from the government then then its much more likely to get through censorers regardless of how spicy it is. Wukong had a lot of buy in from multiple provincial governments (Shanxi in particular) as well as CCTV. If censorer tries to shoot it down the next day they're going to start getting calls and political pressure from all the government stakeholders, and that's something bureaucrats would rather do without so they just greenlight it all the way.

It's like how Let the Bullets Fly can have some very "problematic" take on early CPC history depending on your read of the movie. But seen as the production has the personal patronage of Jiang Zemin no censorer would dare to say the movie needs to be banned because it doesn't fit with CPC values, and I know the party's values better than The Elder himself.
 

Eventine

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I’m not convinced the Chinese government should be encouraging more domestic gaming. There's the addiction and "shut in" angles to consider. You want your population out there starting families and being productive, not living in their parents' basements obsessed with virtual characters and currency.

That said, the gaming industry is lucrative and if the target is international markets, especially countries in the G-7, then who cares. Hence I actually support the idea of having separate rules for the domestic market and the export market, and allowing Chinese game developers to do whatever they want for the latter, while still requiring the former to go through an approval process.

Under those circumstances, I could get behind government support, especially for the export market.
 

BlackWindMnt

Captain
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I’m not convinced the Chinese government should be encouraging more domestic gaming. There's the addiction and "shut in" angles to consider. You want your population out there starting families and being productive, not living in their parents' basements obsessed with virtual characters and currency.

That said, the gaming industry is lucrative and if the target is international markets, especially countries in the G-7, then who cares. Hence I actually support the idea of having separate rules for the domestic market and the export market, and allowing Chinese game developers to do whatever they want for the latter, while still requiring the former to go through an approval process.

Under those circumstances, I could get behind government support, especially for the export market.
Im not so familiar but china has bigger issues than gaming to fix demographics. Things like dowry, bride money, incels/femcels etc.

For the rest making games like Wukong that can spread traditional Chinese culture is just a good move. While i personally would love to see a Battlefield like SCO vs NATO fps game i think that is a bit to much politically loaded right now. Also that seems more like something the Russians would make in the future.
 

proelite

Junior Member
I’m not convinced the Chinese government should be encouraging more domestic gaming. There's the addiction and "shut in" angles to consider. You want your population out there starting families and being productive, not living in their parents' basements obsessed with virtual characters and currency.

Not a concern at all for single player narrative games and esports games. They're no more addictive than movies, shows or sports.

The most addictive games are gotchas and that's the most popular games currently.
 

gk1713

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The restriction is only on paper, and this specific authority is quite low rank in central government.
If a movie, tv series, or game find or attract the back up from a stronger department
censor or restriction will never be a problem.
For example, movie supported by army can show bloody body parts,
TV series founded by procuratorate can show officials learn English with girls in bed
It only depends on if this work really good or not
 

Index

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It's true though, the rules from the censorer are vague and inconsistent. The way it works is if a piece of production has buy in from the government then then its much more likely to get through censorers regardless of how spicy it is.
Where are these rules stated? Again I haven't found any sources. Especially regarding "violence" and "ghosts" which nearly every single TV airing drama has. The only I've found is that productions cannot compromise national security and explicit sexual content is not allowed for under 18.
Wukong had a lot of buy in from multiple provincial governments (Shanxi in particular) as well as CCTV.
This honestly sounds incredibly conspirational. It was created by a studio smaller than the ones that made Dustborn.
If censorer tries to shoot it down the next day they're going to start getting calls and political pressure from all the government stakeholders, and that's something bureaucrats would rather do without so they just greenlight it all the way.

It's like how Let the Bullets Fly can have some very "problematic" take on early CPC history depending on your read of the movie. But seen as the production has the personal patronage of Jiang Zemin no censorer would dare to say the movie needs to be banned because it doesn't fit with CPC values, and I know the party's values better than The Elder himself.
It's not just let the bullets fly but the vast majority of productions.

If there were real official rules that these productions are not permitted, what's preventing a rival company from just taking them to court? Actually people already do it all the time regarding sexually explicit content as a way of competitor sabotage in gacha world, because it is malleable enough.

I think it's important to look at the actual facts not what some hearsay is. Maybe China had once or twice redlighted a horror production for having potentially too scary impact on teens or something like this, but nothing I can find portrays any more specific than just on security and sexual content. In general where there is censorship there will be rumors, this also applies to our enemies across the sea, where people constantly alledge the changing/removal of plot points, removal of topics etc. Yet many of these rumors are pure hearsay or fabrications.

What is more likely, that occasionally 5% of extremely explicit productions are killed, or 95% of productions have some abstract yet not officially stated banned content, yet are unbanned because they were personally greenlit because they have connection with the government. To be perfectly honest, the latter theory sounds like American cope about a "corrupt" Chinese government that only let their friends make media.
 

proelite

Junior Member
Where are these rules stated? Again I haven't found any sources. Especially regarding "violence" and "ghosts" which nearly every single TV airing drama has. The only I've found is that productions cannot compromise national security and explicit sexual content is not allowed for under 18.

Considering porn is banned, what's the point of the bolded?
 

Index

Senior Member
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Considering porn is banned, what's the point of the bolded?
Porn making companies only no? A private person(s) who sells significant amount of their own porn is in a grey zone where it can be prosecuted as prostitution, or not prosecuted at all. A group just filming sex acts and putting it up without selling is fully legal. And then of course the production of drawn/animated sexual material.

Explicit content is not just porn either, it's also sex act miming in media without real sex occurring, frontal nudity etc. Which afaik cannot be present in the below 18 production.
 

proelite

Junior Member
Porn making companies only no? A private person(s) who sells significant amount of their own porn is in a grey zone where it can be prosecuted as prostitution, or not prosecuted at all. A group just filming sex acts and putting it up without selling is fully legal. And then of course the production of drawn/animated sexual material.

Explicit content is not just porn either, it's also sex act miming in media without real sex occurring, frontal nudity etc. Which afaik cannot be present in the below 18 production.

Isn't the dissemination of porn illegal too? So you can create porn and consume porn but not host nor transfer porn, which is essentially a ban on porn.
 
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