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siegecrossbow said:
What the government should do is relax censorship so games like BM: W can be made.
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There needs only be 2 infarctions in the department of censorship:

1. Positive portrayal of China's enemies. 2. Insufficient hostility in portrayal of China's enemies.

Of course, none of this should be said out loud, we can just use Hollywood's excuses, that we are not spreading pro-Chinese propaganda nor a real censorship department, no, we are a "watchdog" that finds and terminates the attempts of "unregistered" foreign forces to influence or buy our productions.
 
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Index said:
There needs only be 2 infarctions in the department of censorship:

1. Positive portrayal of China's enemies. 2. Insufficient hostility in portrayal of China's enemies.

Of course, none of this should be said out loud, we can just use Hollywood's excuses, that we are not spreading pro-Chinese propaganda nor a real censorship department, no, we are a "watchdog" that finds and terminates the attempts of "unregistered" foreign forces to influence or buy our productions.
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Just one imo. No politics.
 
AssassinsMace

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Sorry but the Chinese government on the way they handle public relations especially with other countries, I wouldn't say they knew what they were talking about. I wouldn't put them in charge of developing games. I can easily see them in the position of these "woke" consultants and developers whining about why no one is playing their games. Look at how the government continually and embarrassingly says how other countries have hurt the Chinese people's feelings. It makes Chinese seem like fragile children. You see Western journalists mockingly use it to guess China's reaction to something but Beijing still says it. Beijing thinks it's doing one thing but to someone else it's not seen in the same way. It's because of cultural differences.

Look at the attack on the Game Science all because it wasn't translated correctly. The Western critics interpret it as misogyny but then others have said it was taken the wrong way and not misogyny. I come across a lot of dumb people who think foreign languages are literally just a match word for word of what their language says. That's what happened to Game Science. Then because of all the controversy, Game Science came out with guidelines for those like in the media who got game codes and keys to play so they can review the game. Game Science's rules of conduct to a layman sound like what a communist dictatorship would demand but are actually common conditions in order to have access for those playing the game before the public. And those that want to ruin Black Myth Wukong used it to say that's what Game Science demanded all playing the game to not discuss. Game Science set themselves up for this problem because they didn't know how to word it because of cultural differences. One rule said no talk of feminism. That's because the critics were bringing in feminism when the game didn't take any sort of position. But to a Westerner that's someone telling them how to think entirely in life. In the following video it's explained how the language used is entirely a normal thing they do in business contracts in general.


I'm into the film business and I come across Asians and other ethnicities that want to make films so Americans watch them. Problem is most of them gravitate to making films that deal with their culture. Here's a fact people don't want to admit is most movies about culture are boring to others. Why? Mostly because it's not their culture. They want Americans to watch their movies but make the mistake of thinking Americans want to watch them. Some are interested but most are not. What made Black Myth Wukong a success wasn't about culture. Is was a about fighting mythical creatures and having a fun time doing it. The culture part is not the primary reason why. That's the same approach the Chinese should take when making games. Mecha Break looks like it's going to be a fun ass game and it has nothing to do with culture except it's from a Chinese gaming company.

Wearing cheongsams use to be a fad in Western fashion culture. Once something is a fad and popular, you usually go to the source to find out more about it. I saw on TV a Chinese woman, I don't know if she had notoriety or expertise, but this TV journalist went to her to talk about cheongsams. And unsurprisingly this Chinese woman acted like cheongsams were some treasure that Chinese only had and everyone else wanted. I have no proof of a link but soon after the cheongsam fad was over. If you're not careful, it can be over that quickly.
 
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I don't think translate correctly can eliminate hate or critics.
Soft power means, people will like u anyway even they misunderstand.
The First Blood is anti war but people around the world dream about mass shooting with M60 anyway.
So the point is not to avoid westerner think there's some dictatorship demand but to make them like those demand.
 
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proelite said:
GTA, COD, Harry Potter, Red Dead, Mario, Zelda are games that routinely sell tens of millions of units.

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Most of those are long running franchises so they have something of a built in advantage over a new project/IP in the marketing sphere, so being able to reach that level of sales through more basic and immediate word-of-mouth advertising and/or playable demos makes it all the more impressive.
 
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proelite said:
GTA, COD, Harry Potter, Red Dead, Mario, Zelda are games that routinely sell tens of millions of units.

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montyp165 said:
Most of those are long running franchises so they have something of a built in advantage over a new project/IP in the marketing sphere, so being able to reach that level of sales through more basic and immediate word-of-mouth advertising and/or playable demos makes it all the more impressive.
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In addition to being long running franchises, all of the other games have literally been released for far longer than Black Myth (which has only been out for about two and a half weeks).

Comparing apples to apples ideally would be seeking to track units sold over equivalent time passed per title.

In that respect, Black Myth doing 17+ million in two weeks (which has likely since been exceeded) is a veritable blockbuster.
 
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jli88

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RedMetalSeadramon said:
Pack of apes there cant even fix CCTV/CGTN.

Just have game be developed and have rules about no criticizing domestic policy or administration, never supporting hostile foreign government/NGOs etc. You get much better results.
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solarz said:
Let's not forget that the original and still the best TV adaptation for Xi You Ji was produced by government mandate.
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supersnoop said:
Hilarious that there is so much trust in the government in China that people believe the government should produce AAA video games.
I don't think there is a single person in the west that would want their government doing this.

Dustborn is just a recent example, there was also the famous Kingdoms of Amalur produced by the former Red Sox pitcher and conservative big mouth Curt 'bloody sock' Schilling funded by the state of Rhode Island from 10 years ago.

EDIT: I just remembered that the Quebec government loves doling out money to VG Devs and other multimedia jobs (ie Movie SFX/VFX, just look at the credits of any movie with significant effects in the last 10 years and there is probably an acknowledgement to the "Gouvernment de Quebec"). They've been quite successful at it. So much so that I just found out they even attracted miHoYo. So Quebec has out commied the CPC. The world we live in...
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siegecrossbow said:
What the government should do is relax censorship so games like BM: W can be made.
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The problem with current model of censorship is not censorship itself. It is nobody, and I mean nobody, knows what are the red lines. To top that, you need to produce the whole movie/drama (not sure about games) before getting the green light.

This makes people extremely risk averse. Like who would want to put 100 million dollars in a drama only for it to fail censorship? Not only that censors also then ask a lot of changes in the script after production which might break the natural flow of the story.

This is also the reason why government productions do better, because they have more leeway in censorship and are not constantly second guessing what would or wouldn't be acceptable.

This has to be treated as a nationally strategic industry.

Which means, that regulations have to be altered if the industry is not doing well, and the only benchmark is the leadership/fraction of sales in the global market.

I want China to nurture a global entertainment industry (movies, dramas, games, fashion etc.) that is competitive with Korea + Japan + US combined at the very least.

This means China needs its own Harry Potter, Star Wars, MCU, Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones etc. etc.

Ancestors have already given us a leg up by leaving us with the best literary tradition in all of the world.

What I want to see next is very high production, faithful to the story (including gore and violence), take of the Three Kingdoms.

PS- Don't even get me started on stupid and old taboos against ghosts and all. Like yes, there was a time when people were too superstitious, but now it's just a widely used tool in all kinds of entertainment.
 
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