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Sardaukar20 said:
Its still a video to generate publicity. If Black Myth Wukong had not been successful, people would be mocking that video all the same. Western developers have also done plenty of marketing videos focused on gameplay. Cyberpunk 2077 was heavily marketed based on gameplay footages. So we should not rush our judgement based on what marketing footage that has been put out. This analysis should also include other variables. Such as development schedule, source of funding, outside interference, and in some cases, political messaging.
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The game is already out. I expressed that I appreciated during BM:W's development and marketing cycle they didn't talk too much about the development of the project and instead put out mostly gameplay or cinematic trailers. I don't see how any of what you wrote relates to what I said


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What I'm reading is that you want to caution against excessive over-hyping of Black Myth: Wukong to the point of Chinese chauvinism
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We have seen signs of it already and I want to flag it on this thread before it becomes more fully blown.

A simple acknowledgement that "yes avoiding using this as a medium for chauvinism" has been enough.

Sardaukar20 said:
I like city builders, so The Bustling World, another Chinese game in development caught my attention some time ago. The artistic style of the game appears to be inspired by the Chinese painting: Along the River During the Qingming Festival (清明上河图).

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The game looks quite ambitious. There are elements of city-building, RPG, farming games, and life simulators. But BM:W was also very ambitious, so I hope that that is a sign of things to come from China.
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This genre of game isn't particularly my type, but it certainly looks interesting and the art direction is impressive, and the gameplay options it implies (even if it isn't explicitly seen) is also fascinating.
Visual appeal and curiosity really do remain among the most powerful facets of marketing.
 
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Blitzo said:
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The game is already out. I expressed that I appreciated during BM:W's development and marketing cycle they didn't talk too much about the development of the project and instead put out mostly gameplay or cinematic trailers. I don't see how any of what you wrote relates to what I said
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I was referring to your rush to judgement for Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, not BM:W. We were debating about that game trailer until it has extended so far out. BTW that game is not out yet. You've said you didn't feel good about that game, because in the trailer, there was too much apparent self-glorification by the producers. My argument was not to judge them too early. So I've brought out the development trailers of BM:W and Cyberpunk as argument points. I have watched some really narcissistic hype-bomb game trailers before, and those guys were far from the worse.

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We have seen signs of it already and I want to flag it on this thread before it becomes more fully blown.

A simple acknowledgement that "yes avoiding using this as a medium for chauvinism" has been enough.
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Fair enough. I believe I have already expressed my opinion about why this level of "over-excitement" about the game is actually more of an appreciation, considering the context of the current political landscape.

Blitzo said:
This genre of game isn't particularly my type, but it certainly looks interesting and the art direction is impressive, and the gameplay options it implies (even if it isn't explicitly seen) is also fascinating.
Visual appeal and curiosity really do remain among the most powerful facets of marketing.
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Yes, its is a classic game trailer. Meant for gamers and investors alike. Let's see how they deliver on their advertisement.

I'm most interested in the game's city building aspect. Building out a lively ancient Chinese city should be quite interesting.
 
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With the amount of great looking games coming out, this feels like a cultural moment or turning point where the country sees and realizes that "Hey! Our stuff is pretty fucking good!"

This feels like 2017 to 2019 period for movies:
"Wolf Warriors 2" (2017) Holy Shit, Chinese people can make blockbuster action flick! "Operation Red Sea" (2018) First Chinese war movie featuring current weapon systems.
"Nezha" (2019) $700M domestic animation? No way! But way. "Wandering Earth" (2019) China can make sci-fi hit!

Black Myth: Wukong could be the games industry's "Wolf Warrior 2" that kicks off a successful period that changes the way the domestic audience look at things forever.
 
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Sardaukar20 said:
I was referring to your rush to judgement for Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, not BM:W. We were debating about that game trailer until it has extended so far out. BTW that game is not out yet. You've said you didn't feel good about that game, because in the trailer, there was too much apparent self-glorification by the producers. My argument was not to judge them too early. So I've brought out the development trailers of BM:W and Cyberpunk as argument points. I have watched some really narcissistic hype-bomb game trailers before, and those guys were far from the worse.
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Where did I judge Wuchang as a game itself?
I said that Wuchang having developmental trailer marketing to be kind of trailers to be somewhat self congratulatory. That applies for *all* games no matter where they are from, but especially so if they are from a new IP or a new unproven studio.

Wuchang itself as a game looks interesting and it's on my radar, and I hope it succeeds. Phantom Blade Zero, Where Winds Meet also look good, and they are all showcased action RPGs that are broadly in my preferred genre with good looking aesthetics and mechanics.
 
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