Chinese UCAV/CCA/flying wing drones (ISR, A2A, A2G) thread

mack8

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Movable wingtips are pretty obvious. Looks like that the frontal edges of these control surfaces are shielded by the main wings.

Real question is where did they put the actuators for the wingtips?
I'm pretty sure they are visible on the underside on the wings, see here.
 

Gogurt4ever

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Any idea why the two big boys have exposed nozzles? Most of the decisionmaking (general shape, lack of vertical stabilizers) would suggest extreme stealth, so the engine does stick out quite a bit.

This is not to suggest that this makes them them non-LO from side and rear angles, and the decisionmaking for the F-35 and J-20 shows that an F-22-like nozzle cover isn't strictly necessary for a modern VLO plane, but I'm still curious. As shown by the other drones and the 6th-gen designs, China has no issues building planes with all-aspect stealth.
 

Raison D'tere

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Any idea why the two big boys have exposed nozzles? Most of the decisionmaking (general shape, lack of vertical stabilizers) would suggest extreme stealth, so the engine does stick out quite a bit.

This is not to suggest that this makes them them non-LO from side and rear angles, and the decisionmaking for the F-35 and J-20 shows that an F-22-like nozzle cover isn't strictly necessary for a modern VLO plane, but I'm still curious. As shown by the other drones and the 6th-gen designs, China has no issues building planes with all-aspect stealth.
Most likely it's a matter of cost since UADF are most certainly disposable, and wouldn't such nozzles reduce total thrust output? This is especially important when they are using one engine.
 

SinoAmericanCW

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Any idea why the two big boys have exposed nozzles? Most of the decisionmaking (general shape, lack of vertical stabilizers) would suggest extreme stealth, so the engine does stick out quite a bit.

This is not to suggest that this makes them them non-LO from side and rear angles, and the decisionmaking for the F-35 and J-20 shows that an F-22-like nozzle cover isn't strictly necessary for a modern VLO plane, but I'm still curious. As shown by the other drones and the 6th-gen designs, China has no issues building planes with all-aspect stealth.
Presumably because integrating fully optimized VLO engines would substantially increase cost for a platform (CCA) that is meant to be produced in large numbers and reasonably attritable, albeit not exactly cheap.
 

LurkerZhu

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Any idea why the two big boys have exposed nozzles? Most of the decisionmaking (general shape, lack of vertical stabilizers) would suggest extreme stealth, so the engine does stick out quite a bit.

This is not to suggest that this makes them them non-LO from side and rear angles, and the decisionmaking for the F-35 and J-20 shows that an F-22-like nozzle cover isn't strictly necessary for a modern VLO plane, but I'm still curious. As shown by the other drones and the 6th-gen designs, China has no issues building planes with all-aspect stealth.
Stealth nozzles will increase cost and weight. Considering this is an aircraft similar in size to the JF-17, the slight RCS (Radar Cross-Section) increase is acceptable—it might even make it appear like a larger manned aircraft on radar.
 
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