Re: New Chinese UAV
that is old news...its been around for awhile but we still have yet to see it in service.
Chinese UAV/UCAV development
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今日美国在线近日曝出猛料，美军一架“全球鹰”9月15日从关岛美军基地起飞到东亚地区执行为美韩军演做准备的任务时，在朝鲜南部海域疑似被不明导弹袭击，坠毁在中国渤海湾地区。文章称，根据美军情报机构的内部消息，该导弹很可能是中国的防空导弹hq-10a，因为朝鲜现在没有能力打下美国的高空侦察机，而且hq-10a是中国hq-10的升级，专门为了对付美国的“全球鹰”等先进侦察机而设计的。今日美国在线援引美军匿名消息人士的话称，也不排除在执行任务时出现机械故障或电磁干扰后坠毁的可能。美军第七舰队司令部是在“全球鹰”无法取得联系十分钟后正式确认了这一消息，但消息对媒体进行了严密封锁，随后美韩军演如期举行。
文章说，被击落的“全球鹰”是美国关岛空军基地的编号为yh100的改进型侦察机，坠落地点在中国渤海湾地区，其残骸已经被中国的军方运走。美国太平洋副司令皮里拉16日称，美国国防部已经向中国提出抗议，要求中国对此负责，并归还坠毁的“全球鹰”残骸。
斯罗普·格鲁曼公司的rq-4a“全球鹰”是美国空军乃至全世界最先进的无人机。样机于1998年2月首飞，2000年6月一个完整的“全球鹰”系统部署到了爱德华兹空军基地。“全球鹰”机身长13.5米，高4.62米，翼展35.4米，最大起飞重量11622千克。翼展和波音747相近，因此“全球鹰”是一种巨大的无人机。“全球鹰”机载燃料超过7吨，最大航程可达25945千米，自主飞行时间长达41小时，可以完成跨洲际飞行。可在距发射区5556千米的范围内活动，可在目标区上空18288米处停留24小时。飞行控制系统采用gps全球定位系统和惯性导航系统，可自动完成从起飞到着陆的整个飞行过程。
merica Online recently exposed Mengliao today, the U.S. military a "Global Hawk" Sept. 15 took off from Guam to the U.S. military base in East Asia for the US-ROK military exercise to prepare for the implementation of the mandate, in the southern waters of the DPRK missile suspected to be unknown attacks, crashed in China, the Bohai Bay region. The article said that, according to U.S. intelligence agencies inside information, the missile is likely to be China's air defense missiles hq-10a, because North Korea is now the United States can not afford to lay a high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft, and hq-10a is the hq-10 upgrades, special In order to deal with the U.S. "Global Hawk" and other advanced surveillance aircraft designed. USA Today Online quoted an anonymous U.S. military sources as saying that the implementation of its mandate does not rule out a mechanical failure or electromagnetic interference may be after the crash. U.S. Seventh Fleet in the "Global Hawk" can not get in touch with ten minutes later officially confirmed the news, but the news media, a tight blockade, followed by the US-ROK military exercise held as scheduled.
The article said, was shot down in the "Global Hawk" is the number of Air Force Base in Guam for the yh100 the improved reconnaissance aircraft, crashed in China, the Bohai Bay area locations, the wreckage has been taken away by the Chinese military. Deputy Commander of U.S. Pacific Pili La 16 said the United States Department of Defense has protested to China, asked China to be held responsible, and the return of the crash of the "Global Hawk" debris.
Si Luopu Grumman rq-4a "Global Hawk" is the U.S. Air Force and the world's most advanced UAVs. Prototype first flight in February 1998, in June 2000 a complete "Global Hawk" deployment to Edwards Air Force Base. "Global Hawk" fuselage length of 13.5 meters, 4.62 meters high, a wingspan of 35.4 m, maximum takeoff weight of 11,622 kg. Similar to the Boeing 747 wingspan, so "Global Hawk" is a great UAV. "Global Hawk" on-board fuel over seven tons and a maximum range of up to 25,945 km, autonomous flight time of up to 41 hours, you can complete the transcontinental flight. Away from the launching area in the range 55 56 km event, you can target areas to stay above the 18,288 meters at 24 hours. Flight control system using gps global positioning system and inertial navigation systems, can be done automatically from takeoff to landing of the flight.
今日美国在线近日曝出猛料，美军一架“全球鹰”9月15日从关岛美军基地起飞到东亚地区执行为美韩军演做准备的任务时，在朝鲜南部海域疑似被不明导弹袭击，坠毁在中国渤海湾地区。文章称，根据美军情报机构的内部消息，该导弹很可能是中国的防空导弹hq-10a，因为朝鲜现在没有能力打下美国的高空侦察机，而且hq-10a是中国hq-10的升级，专门为了对付美国的“全球鹰”等先进侦察机而设计的。今日美国在线援引美军匿名消息人士的话称，也不排除在执行任务时出现机械故障或电磁干扰后坠毁的可能。美军第七舰队司令部是在“全球鹰”无法取得联系十分钟后正式确认了这一消息，但消息对媒体进行了严密封锁，随后美韩军演如期举行。
文章说，被击落的“全球鹰”是美国关岛空军基地的编号为yh100的改进型侦察机，坠落地点在中国渤海湾地区，其残骸已经被中国的军方运走。美国太平洋副司令皮里拉16日称，美国国防部已经向中国提出抗议，要求中国对此负责，并归还坠毁的“全球鹰”残骸。
斯罗普·格鲁曼公司的rq-4a“全球鹰”是美国空军乃至全世界最先进的无人机。样机于1998年2月首飞，2000年6月一个完整的“全球鹰”系统部署到了爱德华兹空军基地。“全球鹰”机身长13.5米，高4.62米，翼展35.4米，最大起飞重量11622千克。翼展和波音747相近，因此“全球鹰”是一种巨大的无人机。“全球鹰”机载燃料超过7吨，最大航程可达25945千米，自主飞行时间长达41小时，可以完成跨洲际飞行。可在距发射区5556千米的范围内活动，可在目标区上空18288米处停留24小时。飞行控制系统采用gps全球定位系统和惯性导航系统，可自动完成从起飞到着陆的整个飞行过程。
merica Online recently exposed Mengliao today, the U.S. military a "Global Hawk" Sept. 15 took off from Guam to the U.S. military base in East Asia for the US-ROK military exercise to prepare for the implementation of the mandate, in the southern waters of the DPRK missile suspected to be unknown attacks, crashed in China, the Bohai Bay region. The article said that, according to U.S. intelligence agencies inside information, the missile is likely to be China's air defense missiles hq-10a, because North Korea is now the United States can not afford to lay a high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft, and hq-10a is the hq-10 upgrades, special In order to deal with the U.S. "Global Hawk" and other advanced surveillance aircraft designed. USA Today Online quoted an anonymous U.S. military sources as saying that the implementation of its mandate does not rule out a mechanical failure or electromagnetic interference may be after the crash. U.S. Seventh Fleet in the "Global Hawk" can not get in touch with ten minutes later officially confirmed the news, but the news media, a tight blockade, followed by the US-ROK military exercise held as scheduled.
The article said, was shot down in the "Global Hawk" is the number of Air Force Base in Guam for the yh100 the improved reconnaissance aircraft, crashed in China, the Bohai Bay area locations, the wreckage has been taken away by the Chinese military. Deputy Commander of U.S. Pacific Pili La 16 said the United States Department of Defense has protested to China, asked China to be held responsible, and the return of the crash of the "Global Hawk" debris.
Si Luopu Grumman rq-4a "Global Hawk" is the U.S. Air Force and the world's most advanced UAVs. Prototype first flight in February 1998, in June 2000 a complete "Global Hawk" deployment to Edwards Air Force Base. "Global Hawk" fuselage length of 13.5 meters, 4.62 meters high, a wingspan of 35.4 m, maximum takeoff weight of 11,622 kg. Similar to the Boeing 747 wingspan, so "Global Hawk" is a great UAV. "Global Hawk" on-board fuel over seven tons and a maximum range of up to 25,945 km, autonomous flight time of up to 41 hours, you can complete the transcontinental flight. Away from the launching area in the range 55 56 km event, you can target areas to stay above the 18,288 meters at 24 hours. Flight control system using gps global positioning system and inertial navigation systems, can be done automatically from takeoff to landing of the flight.
Re: New Chinese UAV
Some photos of uav's (from mandrake via CDF):
There's the Yilong (Chinese Predator equivalent) which seems to have had a makeover. Looks kinda like a Reaper now, which I can say is only a good thing. Like the predator it's also equipped with two HJ-10 (or variant) missiles.
There's also the CH-3 uav, which looks to have finally been realized as a real thing not just a concept
It's shown equipped with two small diameter FT-5 bombs. They lack the penetrating power and the range of the American SDB, but two of these on a UAV are still pretty deadly. I hope the PLA get a move on to get the Yilong and/or CH-3 in service soon.... Or maybe sell some to pakistan -- they could use a lot of armed uav's, espicially seeing as the USA aren't willing to sell...
Some photos of uav's (from mandrake via CDF):
There's the Yilong (Chinese Predator equivalent) which seems to have had a makeover. Looks kinda like a Reaper now, which I can say is only a good thing. Like the predator it's also equipped with two HJ-10 (or variant) missiles.
There's also the CH-3 uav, which looks to have finally been realized as a real thing not just a concept
It's shown equipped with two small diameter FT-5 bombs. They lack the penetrating power and the range of the American SDB, but two of these on a UAV are still pretty deadly. I hope the PLA get a move on to get the Yilong and/or CH-3 in service soon.... Or maybe sell some to pakistan -- they could use a lot of armed uav's, espicially seeing as the USA aren't willing to sell...
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AssassinsMace
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Re: New Chinese UAV
Here's the WJ-600. Wendell Minnick says this one will catch people's attention because a video shows it spotting aircraft carriers. Looks like a cruise missile.
Here's the WJ-600. Wendell Minnick says this one will catch people's attention because a video shows it spotting aircraft carriers. Looks like a cruise missile.
Re: New Chinese UAV
I think the YiLong has flown, but not sure about the CH-3 -- it should've had its first taxi though, that's almost certain. It's unfortunate that they don't give progress on how far they are along with development.
Re: New Chinese UAV
I wonder if it can be launched from ships with a rocket booster. Either they didn't show the landing gear or it was likely to be a one-off thing.
I wonder if it can be launched from ships with a rocket booster. Either they didn't show the landing gear or it was likely to be a one-off thing.
maozedong
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I think those UAV models in air show just are still models, for foreign buyer investment, the real under PLA develop UAV are secret. don't you see " Dark Sword", it exhibited long time ago, but we don't see it any more.
only CH-3, there is a south east asia country buyer want to invest.
I am interesting any chinses strategy UAV under develop like the U.S Global Hawk.
I think those UAV models in air show just are still models, for foreign buyer investment, the real under PLA develop UAV are secret. don't you see " Dark Sword", it exhibited long time ago, but we don't see it any more.
only CH-3, there is a south east asia country buyer want to invest.
I am interesting any chinses strategy UAV under develop like the U.S Global Hawk.
Re: New Chinese UAV
there has been a bunch of articles on Chinese UAVs from Zhuhai airshow. Here are them
This is talking about Pterodactyl UAV (aka YiLong) by CAC. It mentions that the UAV has payload of 200 kg with the FLIR being 100 kg, which means 50 kg per missile under each wing (KD-10).
It is 9.05 meters long and 2.77 meters high, with a 14 meter wingspan. Maximum takeoff weight is 1,100 kg. Its maximum endurance is 20 hours, with a maximum operating altitude of 5,000 meters. Maximum range is given as 4,000 km. and a maximum speed at 280 km/h.
here is an article from defensenews on it
It mentions the wing flapping ASN-211 UAV which I have attached. It has a take-off weight of only 220 grams with a maximum speed of six-to-10 meters a second and an altitude ranging from 20-200 meters. Which interesting design I would say. It also makes mention of ASN-229A, which seems to be a UCAV also, but is not as capable as YiLong.
It also makes mention of CH-3 and WJ-600 that are already posted here. They seem to both be quite far along (especially CH-3).
Another article is from wsj
It mentions a lot of the same stuff from defensenews article.
there has been a bunch of articles on Chinese UAVs from Zhuhai airshow. Here are them
This is talking about Pterodactyl UAV (aka YiLong) by CAC. It mentions that the UAV has payload of 200 kg with the FLIR being 100 kg, which means 50 kg per missile under each wing (KD-10).
It is 9.05 meters long and 2.77 meters high, with a 14 meter wingspan. Maximum takeoff weight is 1,100 kg. Its maximum endurance is 20 hours, with a maximum operating altitude of 5,000 meters. Maximum range is given as 4,000 km. and a maximum speed at 280 km/h.
here is an article from defensenews on it
It mentions the wing flapping ASN-211 UAV which I have attached. It has a take-off weight of only 220 grams with a maximum speed of six-to-10 meters a second and an altitude ranging from 20-200 meters. Which interesting design I would say. It also makes mention of ASN-229A, which seems to be a UCAV also, but is not as capable as YiLong.
It also makes mention of CH-3 and WJ-600 that are already posted here. They seem to both be quite far along (especially CH-3).
Another article is from wsj
It mentions a lot of the same stuff from defensenews article.
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