Chinese UAV/UCAV development

advill said:

The commercial organisations and the respective agencies know the facts, but will not reveal them, neither will the copy-cats admit. These days effected parties are no longer naïve but will continue to keep track of the recalcitrants, whoever they may be.

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If no one is revealing anything, that means no one has solid evidence. Then how can you be sure that it is fact? What fact? That was the question. If you claim it is fact, then you must have solid evidence to back it up. Otherwise, it is simply speculation.

If it were so easy to copy why does China have trouble with engines? The answer to that is why it's not as simple to say just because it looks similar, it's a copy. I bet the insides are close to nothing looking similar. I have argued against people who think like that charging everyone copied China on guns and rockets. They'll argue that today's guns and rockets are no where near to the guns and rockets the Chinese invented. The principle is still the same therefore it's a copy. I remember when the Japanese were who everyone feared was going to control the world, the thinking to make people feel better about themselves was the Japanese could only improve. They weren't innovative enough to invent something new. Isn't today's guns and rockets just an improvement? And don't think it's just guns and rockets. A lot of what China invented changed the landscape of how others saw things. Like how computers and the internet changed peoples' lives... That's what China did back then.

The thing is... if something is stealthy, then it ought to look almost similar. Stealth is a science and the shape of it would not differ that much. And that is about it. By just looking at something that had the same type of look and say that one country is reverse engineering the other, is a total and utter defamation.

It was similar to saying, Apple came out with the iphone, large touch sensitive screen and almost not other physical buttons. Then all other companies that came out with similar devices and people came in and said that these are reverse engineered of the iphone, which is a total bull.

The Americans invented Robotics and the Japanese improved on their designs. The Japanese Corporations openly admitted that they have improved/developed on the original American inventions. Unfortunately, some other country just copy wholesale, and blatantly claim it is their original work. Corporations and Governments will no longer tolerate commercial spying, and will expose the recalcitrant as the US Attorney General has done recently.

rhino123 said:

The thing is... if something is stealthy, then it ought to look almost similar. Stealth is a science and the shape of it would not differ that much. And that is about it. By just looking at something that had the same type of look and say that one country is reverse engineering the other, is a total and utter defamation.

It was similar to saying, Apple came out with the iphone, large touch sensitive screen and almost not other physical buttons. Then all other companies that came out with similar devices and people came in and said that these are reverse engineered of the iphone, which is a total bull.

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advill said:

The Americans invented Robotics and the Japanese improved on their designs. The Japanese Corporations openly admitted that they have improved/developed on the original American inventions. Unfortunately, some other country just copy wholesale, and blatantly claim it is their original work. Corporations and Governments will no longer tolerate commercial spying, and will expose the recalcitrant as the US Attorney General has done recently.

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The US Attorney General has not exposed any wholesale copying by the Chinese as a result of hacking. Can you quote any specific part of articles here? But of course, there are goods copied like car designs, etc, but that's just the look. But we are talking about UAVs here. Can you prove any copying of UAVs?

advill said:

The Americans invented Robotics and the Japanese improved on their designs. The Japanese Corporations openly admitted that they have improved/developed on the original American inventions. Unfortunately, some other country just copy wholesale, and blatantly claim it is their original work. Corporations and Governments will no longer tolerate commercial spying, and will expose the recalcitrant as the US Attorney General has done recently.

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Again. Where is the evidence in it? So you believe in the US Attorney General and not the other party who also had quite a high level personnel speaking. Really? Talking about double standards here ain't we?



(And see... the US claimed the Chinese stole information. The Chinese denied. And you choose to believe the US, while ignored the Chinese? This is the double standard I am saying. Meanwhile... the investigation is not even completed yet. All one sided claim by the US.)

For me... I will wait and see how things go. I choose to listen to both sides of the stories, rather than just one side, then go all about other people reverse engineering another country's work... without real evidence and proof of whatsoever and disregards the protest from the country that was being targeted.

Also... you do understand improve on other people's technology as oppose to reverse engineering other people's technology, right? Because in your previous claim you mentioned about Japanese and Korean reverse engineered thingy.

advill said:

It is a fact that reverse engineering has taken place, not only the Chinese but also the Japanese and South Koreans as in other areas e.g. vehicles, smart-phones, computers etc.

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First of all hello on board ... but to admit what are You writing here ??? How is this related to Chinese UAV/UCAV ???



Deino

Deino said:

First of all hello on board ... but to admit what are You writing here ??? How is this related to Chinese UAV/UCAV ???



Deino

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spammers on SDF always want to sell gps and wifi jammers for some reason. just ban the spammer please.

Looking back in this thread I do not think this was posted but with so many pages I could have easily missed it.

Anyway, some time ago – can not remember the exact date now – a few North Korean drones went down in the South. At least one of them was bearing strong resemblance to Chinese UAVs made by the company TranComm. The firm denied involvement. For more see .

Whatever the case its UAVs are worth a look at which can be done at the company’s site but unfortunately (at least for me) it appears to be in Chinese only.

Every time there's a UAV exhibition in China, you can see so many companies making UAVs. China seems at the forefront of commercial UAVs. I saw a couple weeks ago Hollywood is teaming with DJI based in Shenzhen to make UAVs for filming movies. So it's possible that the company sold them but didn't know where they were going. It was just a customer buying UAVs. I bet if I tried, I could probably buy them too.