Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)

Deino said:

Really? Any info on where this factory is located and which company runs it?
To admit I thought this was always the plan but until now all engines were Ukrainian ones.

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In the southwestern Chinese city of Chongqing, Motor Sich and Beijing Skyrizon in 2017 agreed to jointly build a plant to service and manufacture aircraft engines. The Chinese partners offered to build a small town in which Ukrainian engineers would feel at home, Boguslayev said.

“They said, ‘Give us 1,000 people,’ ” Boguslayev recalled. “ ‘We’ll build a church for you here. We’ll build a kindergarten.’ ”

The plant has been partially built, Boguslayev said, but is not yet operational.

Hendrik_2000 said:

Here it is

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In the southwestern Chinese city of Chongqing, Motor Sich and Beijing Skyrizon in 2017 agreed to jointly build a plant to service and manufacture aircraft engines. The Chinese partners offered to build a small town in which Ukrainian engineers would feel at home, Boguslayev said.

“They said, ‘Give us 1,000 people,’ ” Boguslayev recalled. “ ‘We’ll build a church for you here. We’ll build a kindergarten.’ ”

The plant has been partially built, Boguslayev said, but is not yet operational.

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Thought US froze it?


Maybe the deal was to help unfreeze the investment/tech transfer during Biden?

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Thought US froze it?

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It is frozen but not cancelled ! Ukraine has not choice the Russian is not buying their engine anymore For the western market their engine is outdated and sofar no taker to take over the sich motor. That left only china to save them from bankruptcy with permanent lost of jobs, technology, etc At lest with Chinese investment they can kept their design office and some manufacturing intact in Ukraine plus they have more capital to build or update their engine

looking at the photo published above, it crossed my mind how it could appear in a single-seater version, here is the result with a quick photoshop.
but it could be a interesting version , an aircraft multi-role light-weight fighter single-seat.

I'm convinced that it's the Turboshaft engines of Motor Sich that China is after rather than Turbofan.
The US report (DoD?) also mentions the resources MS has regarding the Helicopter engines.

AL-222 engines may not be that high in the priority list and not worth sinking money into.

But Helicopter engines certainly need attention. They aren't upto par in the performance spectrum (as most of us know).

China holds her purse really tight regarding Military spending. The investments required in rotor aircrafts may be a question mark for China.

and wouldn't it be commercially attractive to make a single-seater version?

Good progress on JL10
HAIG, an AVIC subsidiary, makes its first delivery of an advanced trainer in 2021 with a JL-10 III, a version that would be fitted with a PESA antenna radar. The aircraft is said to be dedicated to the Chinese Air Force, according to its livery.

Angola receives final K-8W jets from China​

The K-8 has a top speed of 800 km/h and is powered by a Ukrainian AI-25TLK turbofan or a Chinese WS-11 (an AI-25TLK clone) developing 1 680 kg of thrust. However, some export models are powered by the TFE731-2A turbofan developing 1 600 kg of thrust.

Maximum takeoff weight is 4 470 kg and maximum range 2 200 km. Export versions are usually better equipped than the models in service with China (JL-8), and feature components such as Martin Baker ejection seats, a glass cockpit with head up display and multi-function displays and ability to carry PL-5E/PL-7 air-to-air missiles and a 23 mm gun pod. Angop reported that Angola’s K-8Ws will be armed with air-to-air missiles, cannons and bombs.

So sale to Cambodia of FTC-2000 was a rumor??

Any factual news on a modern primary trainer after all the rumors over Russian and Austrian aircraft in the running???