Re: new Richard Fisher article
so what is the best solution for PLAN's 2nd strike mission?
so what is the best solution for PLAN's 2nd strike mission?
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BLUEJACKET
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The PLAN may be able to do it with regards to both Koreas, India, Japan, Australia or Russia, but as for targeting the continental US they better focus on other tasks and leave it to the 2nd Artillery Corps & their mobile launchers- see my posts starting with #6 here.
The PLAN may be able to do it with regards to both Koreas, India, Japan, Australia or Russia, but as for targeting the continental US they better focus on other tasks and leave it to the 2nd Artillery Corps & their mobile launchers- see my posts starting with #6 here.
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i have not have chance to read the link you provided. but i have always thought 2nd Artillery Corps is the main/1st strike force, am i wrong? although a bit offtopic, sorry.
i have not have chance to read the link you provided. but i have always thought 2nd Artillery Corps is the main/1st strike force, am i wrong? although a bit offtopic, sorry.
BLUEJACKET
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"Strategic" doesn't mean "1st strike/main force" only. Actualy, their current doctrine is oriented towards the ability to execute successful 2nd strike:
BLUEJACKET
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Re: Chinese sub thread
I have read in a German English language military magazine that some analysts think that may be just a prototype before some other class based on it is built. From the outside appearance it looks like a hybrid of and classes.
I have read in a German English language military magazine that some analysts think that may be just a prototype before some other class based on it is built. From the outside appearance it looks like a hybrid of and classes.
Schumacher
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Agree, for a few years now, I think the number of Yuan has stayed at 1 or 2. A telltale sign it's still very much in development stage, not production yet.
Agree, for a few years now, I think the number of Yuan has stayed at 1 or 2. A telltale sign it's still very much in development stage, not production yet.
Re: Chinese sub thread
That's not on any Chinese subs to the best of my knowledge.
anyhow, here is a picture of Yuan. I'm a little frustrated they don't release more information these days like how many Yuans there are. We see quite a few pictures, but no ideas on the production rate.
you mean a pumpjet propulsor?
That's not on any Chinese subs to the best of my knowledge.
anyhow, here is a picture of Yuan. I'm a little frustrated they don't release more information these days like how many Yuans there are. We see quite a few pictures, but no ideas on the production rate.
Schumacher
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Re: new Richard Fisher article
Just some thoughts, the article talks abt USSR adopting the bastions solution because of fear of US SSNs, but there's no mention of how USSR used SSKs.
As we know, PLAN puts a lot of emphasis on SSKs.
I assume SSKs are in general quieter than SSNs. How true is this with respect to US SSNs like Seawolf ? Do US SSNs normally hunt alone without protection from surface or aerial ASW assets ?
Plenty has been talked abt SSKs against carriers, and the conclusion, for me at least, is that SSKs are not meant to find or chase carriers in the open seas.
But what if SSKs are used to escort PLAN SSBNs thru shallow waters on their way to deep sea ?
The US SSNs, surface & aerial ASW assets will have to COME to the PLAN SSBNs right ? running into the SSKs pack.
The US surface ASWs, with or without air support from carriers, will face PLAN & land based PLAF.
I think too little has been talked abt a pack of SSKs vs US SSNs.
Just some thoughts, the article talks abt USSR adopting the bastions solution because of fear of US SSNs, but there's no mention of how USSR used SSKs.
As we know, PLAN puts a lot of emphasis on SSKs.
I assume SSKs are in general quieter than SSNs. How true is this with respect to US SSNs like Seawolf ? Do US SSNs normally hunt alone without protection from surface or aerial ASW assets ?
Plenty has been talked abt SSKs against carriers, and the conclusion, for me at least, is that SSKs are not meant to find or chase carriers in the open seas.
But what if SSKs are used to escort PLAN SSBNs thru shallow waters on their way to deep sea ?
The US SSNs, surface & aerial ASW assets will have to COME to the PLAN SSBNs right ? running into the SSKs pack.
The US surface ASWs, with or without air support from carriers, will face PLAN & land based PLAF.
I think too little has been talked abt a pack of SSKs vs US SSNs.
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