Chinese Soft Power and Media Discussion and Updates

solarz

solarz

Brigadier
Serb said:
The problem is not your average user but the advanced level of the US propaganda brainwashing system that has risen to this monstrous level thanks to constant social inner stability being dependent on it, and due to the external imperial model being dependent on it too for decades. So the US intelligence agencies have the world-leading advantage in this area. They can run those comprehensive psychological manipulation tactics with bots, and they don't even need real users. If the Chinese internet ecosystem and officials can't account for that, then they shouldn't lift the firewall. This is very dangerous stuff. We don't need this kind of risk and potential disturbance just right as China is about to deliver the finishing stab in the monster's neck too, and is about to win the future of this world and finally collapse this malicious empire for better eternity.
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It's bad to underestimate your opponent, but imagining them to be some kind of unbeatable monster is worse.

The XHS event broke the Western media's stranglehold on the China narrative. This is not some kind of illusory victory, but a real Berlin Wall type of event. Remember the Soviet Union collapsed not because the West was able to defeat it in battle, but because its people stopped believing in it.

When your opponent is on the attack, it's important to keep your guard up. However, if you never let your guard down, you can never hit back.
 
daifo

daifo

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GulfLander said:
From NPR:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1883341721007972420
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Sell and just make another competitor :)? International tik tok isn't too profitable yet anyway. Since employees get rsu/stock, they most likely cash out and flee since no one wants to work for oracle. . The tik tok algo is known to many ex-developers anyways. One on x mention it is the quality of the chinese based staff that got douyin/tik tok to where it is at anyways. Bytedance can buy itself off of majority foreign ownership as well
 
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tamsen_ikard

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daifo said:
Sell and just make another competitor :)? International tik tok isn't too profitable yet anyway. Since employees get rsu/stock, they most likely cash out and flee since no one wants to work for oracle. . The tik tok algo is known to many ex-developers anyways. One on x mention it is the quality of the chinese based staff that got douyin/tik tok to where it is at anyways. Bytedance can buy itself off of majority foreign ownership as well
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Its not about money, its about principles and China resisting US aggression via lawfare. Its also China following its own law to now allow sale of technology. And yet, China just giving up on tiktok and selling it is such a disappointment. Its much better to shut down the whole app rather than sell it like this. I was so happy about the Deepseek news. But Beijing just showed its spineless behavior once again. And to whom, Trump?? Huh...This is just the worst decision ever.
 
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azn_cyniq

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tamsen_ikard said:
Its not about money, its about principles and China resisting US aggression via lawfare. Its also China following its own law to now allow sale of technology. And yet, China just giving up on tiktok and selling it is such a disappointment. Its much better to shut down the whole app rather than sell it like this. I was so happy about the Deepseek news. But Beijing just showed its spineless behavior once again. And to whom, Trump?? Huh...This is just the worst decision ever.
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TikTok hasn't been sold yet though
 
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Biscuits

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tamsen_ikard said:
Its not about money, its about principles and China resisting US aggression via lawfare. Its also China following its own law to now allow sale of technology. And yet, China just giving up on tiktok and selling it is such a disappointment. Its much better to shut down the whole app rather than sell it like this. I was so happy about the Deepseek news. But Beijing just showed its spineless behavior once again. And to whom, Trump?? Huh...This is just the worst decision ever.
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You showed your spineless behavior by constantly using only the US state department as source.

If you didn't come on here, you'd likely not learn about DeepSeek either? The state department which you trust for your news about tiktok have also not released anything about DeepSeek and are pretending it doesn't exist.
 
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luminary

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XHS gained 5 million new users from the TikTok wave. Despite its apparent popularity on TikTok, this is a disappointingly negligible percentage of 150 million US TikTok users. The current XHS new users are also expected to dwindle over time as they return to TikTok for their follower base and monetization.

It's an amusing event but does not prove or disprove the competitiveness of Chinese content social media.

Is XHS really capable of a Berlin wall moment? Americans have always known their lives sucked. Hard not to with European cousins. They just like complaining online and having a sympathetic and exotic new audience.

I know it's appealing to think otherwise, but I'm trying to provide more levelheaded perspectives here.
 
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RedBaron

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azn_cyniq said:
TikTok hasn't been sold yet though
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There are some worrying signs, though, such as reports of TikTok censoring "politically sensitive" content (free Palestine) following its return to the US.

Western publications have also interpreted the following statement by China's FM spokesperson as China softening its stance. While there is a reference to Chinese laws & regulations, verbiage is noticeably softer in comparison to previous resolute opposition to a forced sale.

Reuters: TikTok has restored service in the US citing Trump’s efforts, but Trump has said that he wants to cut a deal that will see the US have 50 percent ownership in a joint venture. Is China open to a deal with Trump and how might such a deal look like?

Mao Ning: TikTok has operated in the US for years and been very popular with American users. It has played a positive role in boosting US employment and consumption. We hope the US will earnestly listen to the voice of reason and provide an open, fair, just and non-discriminatory business environment for market entities from all countries. When it comes to actions such as the operation and acquisition of businesses, we believe they should be independently decided by companies in accordance with market principles. If it involves Chinese companies, China’s laws and regulations should be observed.

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