Chinese shipbuilding industry

swoosh

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I am expecting the Chinese government is going to enact some very Keynesian measures. Two of the ways to approach this is build infrastructure for the sake of building infrastructure. Japanese government often does this, but in the end, excess infrastructure is a waste of money. China is nearly overbuilt.

Of course, they can build more and better schools that would always help.

Another way is to build alternative energy infrastructure. Obama is planning to turn the US into an alternative energy economy. For the sake of its own future, China should not be fossil and imported fuel dependent.

I expect military building to increase, like in ships, planes and tanks. Defense industry spending is another Keynesian form of spending. So you're right, i would expect they would pick up the speed in building ships.

Indeed excess infrastructure like building bridge to nowhere is a waste of money, but I kinda disagree with you about China is overbuilt. I think it depends on what sector. For example, I read somewhere that China's railway has become a bottle neck for the economy. Even in housing sector with the dwindling prices, many Chinese still don't have their own home. So there are plenty to build and fill. I really hope the navy will pick up the demand for ships, especially in this uncertain time. I'm afraid with all those shifting in power today, the potential for conflict is pretty high.
 

Maggern

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I agree with swoosh. From what I read in the news, I get the feeling China is rather chronically underdeveloped when it comes to infrastructure. Given the Chinese don't have the same nomadic car-culture the Americans have, China still has 1.3 billion people who want to get around. Aside from the well-developed coast, there's more than enough highways and high-speed railways to build in the interior.

But indeed, more military construction would be a blessing to us poor watchers of Chinese military hardware:D, and would indeed be interesting. Of course, with all this over-capacity in civilian shipping going on these days, it would be a shame to let that carrier-capable dry dock to remain idle :)
 

crobato

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The problem with the shipping industry worldwide, is that the ships are aging and the new replacement ships are not being supplied fast enough to offset the attrition and retirement. The average age of a merchant ship and tankers are said to be at least two to three decades old, and the majority of the ships running is pre-Cold War. Like the military navies, the commercial navies have to retire their old ships and put in place, newer and more efficient ones. This is why the backlog for new ships run in the years.
 

Skywatcher

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China is planning to spend a lot of money on nuclear energy with at least a hundred AP-1000s in the making, so they're pretty good on that front.
 

tphuang

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a little more good news, didn't realize China's oil tanker designs were this advanced. They are still behind in LNG Carriers, but looks like the Shanghai shipyards are really advanced in VLCC
The environmentally-friendly 318,000 dead-wei
ght-ton VLCC (Very Large Crude Carrier) Hua San, built by Shan
ghai Waigaoqiao Shipbuilding for Ocean Tankers, was delivered f
ive months ahead of the schedule on the afternoon of October 27.

It is the world's first super oil tanker with the largest dead
weight tonnage and the newest design, completely in line with the lat
est Common Structural Rules formulated by the International Associati
on of Classification Societies. This marks another milestone for dome
stic shipbuilding enterprises in terms of developing and building hi
gh-tech, high value-added and large oil tankers.

Hua San, 333 meters long, 60 meters wide and 30.5 meters deep
, has a design draft of 21 meters, a speed of 16.1 knots, and an e
ndurance of about 29,000 nautical miles. It is another typical pro
duct that Shanghai Waigaoqiao Shipbuilding Co. has introduced int
o the market.

The availability of the oil tanker has attracted wide attenti
on and a great response from the international shipping industry. T
he company has already received orders for a total of 16 oil tankers
 

crobato

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Looking at BP's record profits, oil companies are still making out like bandits despite the financial crisis. They're still going to maintain their orders for new tankers.
 

tphuang

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this is kind of interesting, they just launched a new maritime patrol ship "Haixun 11", you may recall late last year, they had a major exercise involving like 60 such ships.
 

Engineer

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This is a good trend. They need to expand their maritime partrol fleet and use it as a second navy like Japan does. Ramming foreign vessels will certainly sound better than firing at foreign vessels.
 

tphuang

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not really sure what this is suppose to be but it's taken from the dry dock at the new Changxin JN shipyard.
jncxdockapr12.jpg

any idea what the ship could be?
 
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