Chinese semiconductor thread II

gadgetcool5

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In my view, China should negotiate and work out a deal with the Dutch. Its not worth blowing up relations over this, since thay is probably what the US wanted when it forced the Dutch. Its a big win for the US sadly.
 

GulfLander

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In my view, China should negotiate and work out a deal with the Dutch. Its not worth blowing up relations over this, since thay is probably what the US wanted when it forced the Dutch. Its a big win for the US sadly.

U.S. assembly plants weeks away from shutdowns due to new chip shortage, trade group warns
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Blitzo

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In my view, China should negotiate and work out a deal with the Dutch. Its not worth blowing up relations over this, since thay is probably what the US wanted when it forced the Dutch. Its a big win for the US sadly.

What sort of negotiation can occur, when the entire premise of the issue is that the Dutch government were used wartime laws to nationalize a company that was operating above board, thus opening the risk of all companies and assets owned by any Chinese entity at risk of being nationalized at the whims of their local government?
 

PiSigma

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In my view, China should negotiate and work out a deal with the Dutch. Its not worth blowing up relations over this, since thay is probably what the US wanted when it forced the Dutch. Its a big win for the US sadly.
In my view China should do some research and nationalize 10x worth of Dutch companies in China as payback. Completed destroy the relationship until the Dutch come beg on their knees. Grow a backbone gadget.

If they won't beg then do a Lithuania on them. Nothing imported from Europe can have anything from Netherlands in it. See how fast the rest of Europe turn on the Dutch then.
 

drowingfish

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In my view, China should negotiate and work out a deal with the Dutch. Its not worth blowing up relations over this, since thay is probably what the US wanted when it forced the Dutch. Its a big win for the US sadly.
nooo it is the opposite actually. in this case specifically and US/EU trade war against China in general, has helped the CCP tame the unruly, fence-sitting capitalists within its own borders. for example, Xi has tried for many years to get industries to become more self-reliant, he was unsuccessful until ZTE/Huaiwei got hammered, then all the sudden everyone made domestication a priority.

With this case, it appears China is saying that chips can be supplied to Europe but payment has to be in RMB. I don't think Wingtech would have been very amenable to making this sort of request before all of this happened.

In the end, Chinese businesses were not necessarily allies of the Communist Party before, but they sure look to the Communist Party for cover now. This is actually all working out quite well for Chinese leadership because the west is whipping intransigent Chinese businesses in the direction they want them go move.
 

tphuang

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Alright, we are getting way off topic here once the discussion gets to sinochem and Motor Sich.

Please keep the conversation to just semiconductor stuff.
 

huemens

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According to Digitimes, CXMT is offloading the Logic Die for HBM3 to Nexchip to increase the output.

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China's CXMT has reportedly delivered 16nm HBM3 samples to Huawei and its partners, a prelude to large-scale manufacturing slated for the same year (2026).
To expand wafer output, CXMT has reportedly transferred its base die technology to contract manufacturers, including Nexchip Semiconductor Corp., a venture backed by Hefei authorities and Powerchip (PSMC). This technology licensing and outsourcing model is expected to accelerate CXMT's DRAM production growth.
Confronted with temperature and thermal challenges in early 2025, the company swiftly reworked its photomasks, achieving notable yield gains later that year.
Reports from China suggest DDR5 yields have surpassed 80%, now approaching the performance benchmarks of leading global manufacturers.
CXMT targets 2026 for the start of HBM3 mass production, with a new backend packaging facility in Shanghai slated to come online by year-end 2025. Development of HBM3E is scheduled for completion in 2027

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