Chinese semiconductor industry

Annihilation98 said:

"China's Shanghai Micro Electronics Equipment (SMEE), founded in 2002, announced that it was building on its previous 90nm to produce the first China-made 28nm immersion type lithography machine, which will be delivered in 2021-2022. This means it can produce 12nm -14nm Chips, but with multiple patterning techniques will be able to reach 7nm."

-It also can produce 5nm but require more layer and more advance DUV machine.
EUV 12 layers at 7nm versus 68 DUV layers.
EUV 22 layers at 5nm vs 78 DUV layers.

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WTAN said:

It is interesting to note that Nikon is already making large loses in its Lithography Machine Division and having to lay off many staff.
I think this is happening as the US is restricting Nikon from selling its latest models of DUVL to China.
Nikon is already doing badly even before SMEE begins to mass produce its DUVL next year. CETC will be joining the fray very soon with its own DUVL.
When SMEE volume produces its 28nm DUVL next year, i can imagine that Nikon will be making even bigger loses and may even be forced into Bankruptcy.
This is not good for Japan as it is already out of the EUVL race and the loss of Nikon would mean Japan will become a minor player in the Semiconductor Industry.
The only way out for Nikon is to sell more to China but with American Sanctions and Restrictions and competition from SMEE and CETC, this will not work.
The Biden Admin would never allow Nikon to produce its products in China.
Gigaphoton will also be affected if Nikon disappears as its main business is supplying its Excimer Lasers to Nikon.
Looks like Nikon will suffer the same fate as Toshiba.

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WTAN said:

It is interesting to note that Nikon is already making large loses in its Lithography Machine Division and having to lay off many staff.
I think this is happening as the US is restricting Nikon from selling its latest models of DUVL to China.
Nikon is already doing badly even before SMEE begins to mass produce its DUVL next year. CETC will be joining the fray very soon with its own DUVL.
When SMEE volume produces its 28nm DUVL next year, i can imagine that Nikon will be making even bigger loses and may even be forced into Bankruptcy.
This is not good for Japan as it is already out of the EUVL race and the loss of Nikon would mean Japan will become a minor player in the Semiconductor Industry.
The only way out for Nikon is to sell more to China but with American Sanctions and Restrictions and competition from SMEE and CETC, this will not work.
The Biden Admin would never allow Nikon to produce its products in China.
Gigaphoton will also be affected if Nikon disappears as its main business is supplying its Excimer Lasers to Nikon.
Looks like Nikon will suffer the same fate as Toshiba.

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voyager1 said:

isn't it possible that the US gets Nikon the same way it is getting TSMC?

Force them to set up shop in the US, near US competitors, and then these US companies who have access to cheap dollar loans, they can then recruit the engineers there

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ansy1968 said:

@voyager1 bro, Nikon had nothing to offer that interest the US, If they intended as what you advise , the Japanese should had been invited in the EUVL consortium in the first place. So the Goal of killing the Japanese tech industries in the mid 90"s to early 2000's will be finally achieved. The savior is being spurned upon and how the mighty had fallen. It should be a lesson for Beijing not to follow.

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jfcarli said:

Nikon`s photography division is not going very well. Now their litography division also. Seems their only way out is to move lock stock and barrel to China and become a Chinese corporation.

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ansy1968 said:

@jfcarli bro not trying to diminish Nikon reputation and tech but like the US, China doesn't need to, they had a local champion with equivalent tech in SMEE and CETC, what China needed is Gigaphoton 250kw LPP power sources for its EUVL.

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WTAN said:

It is interesting to note that Nikon is already making large loses in its Lithography Machine Division and having to lay off many staff.
I think this is happening as the US is restricting Nikon from selling its latest models of DUVL to China.
Nikon is already doing badly even before SMEE begins to mass produce its DUVL next year. CETC will be joining the fray very soon with its own DUVL.
When SMEE volume produces its 28nm DUVL next year, i can imagine that Nikon will be making even bigger loses and may even be forced into Bankruptcy.
This is not good for Japan as it is already out of the EUVL race and the loss of Nikon would mean Japan will become a minor player in the Semiconductor Industry.
The only way out for Nikon is to sell more to China but with American Sanctions and Restrictions and competition from SMEE and CETC, this will not work.
The Biden Admin would never allow Nikon to produce its products in China.
Gigaphoton will also be affected if Nikon disappears as its main business is supplying its Excimer Lasers to Nikon.
Looks like Nikon will suffer the same fate as Toshiba.

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SleepyStudent said:

You sure? Nikon reports continually mention the ArFi sales to China

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