Chinese semiconductor industry
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They use ASML
I heard Russian chips are fabbed by TSMC or GF.
@ericlfh bro the chip design is ingeniously develop by Huawei, producing it was done by SMIC using ASML DUVL. Domestic 14nm production will commence next year and I hope SMIC will supply Huawei BUT with sanction in place with majority of its equipment came from ASML they needed to thread carefully. This is the reason for Huawei to do IDM with FABS being constructed in Wuhan, Shenzhen and Shanghai. I'm encourage though from @foofy post that the incoming SMIC Beijing FAB using all domestic equipment will be operational in 2022 and will help Huawei produce those badly needed chips.
It's fabbed at TSMC so by the standards of the anti Chinese racists it is 0% Russian and might as well be made in Texas by a one eyed cowboy munching burgers and drinking whiskey, yee haw!
I would say that a number of the SMEE DUVL (4 Units) is at the FABs undergoing production trials with feedback going to SMEE. This is part of the ongoing Certification process.
This is like the many C919 prototypes which were built conducting numerous test flights under different conditions in order to achieve certification.
Yes, the SMEE 28nm DUVL will certainly be improved upon over time. They already have a solid foundation to build upon.
SMEE has sucessfully developed the 90nm , 65nm and now the 28nm DUVL and the experience gained is invaluable.
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SMIC need to use domestic DUV as soon as they are ready, gradually phasing out ASML litho when domestic DUV matures. Huawei need to support domestc IC development and vice versa. Hope to buy my first Huawei phone next year.
SMIC need to use domestic DUV as soon as they are ready, gradually phasing out ASML litho when domestic DUV matures. Huawei need to support domestc IC development and vice versa. Hope to buy my first Huawei phone next year.
SMIC first 28nm production started in 2013 just two years after TSMC . if you are referring to the lithography machine, the resolution ASML machines is 38nm, is up to the fab to take advantage of machine qualities using multiple patterning techniques to produce lower nodes. And is damn hard, that is why SMIC took so long to produce 14nm FINFETs. To think that you can count with the fingers of one hand the companies able to archive anything below 28nm and SMIC is one of them.
There are 195 nations in the world and in 5-6 years China will be the 2th nation capable of assembly a EUV machine like that, i can bet money in that. They already have EUV hardware, making one will be a matter of time.
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I don't think this is true my god lithography is just a piece of technology created by man and not by god. If you look at China progress over the year, they did catch up in all of technology field except semiconductor. I can name aerospace not too long ago the western analyst mock Chinese airforce as antiquated air force yet within span of decade it can give run to the best of western airforce , Hight T/W turbo jet again we now see that China did produce their home grown jet engine comparable to the the best that the like of GE and Pratt and whitney. Naval design and Shipping in general again China is the largest shipyard in the world and churned out ship like dumpling. What remarkable is that they achieve it while under strictest tech embargo by the west
Land transport, China domestics car industry capturing larger and larger of domestic market where it was once dominated by the like of VW, Honda, GM and now even ahead in self driving car and EV
High speed train China now has the largest network of high speed train and has the most advance technology in HSR
I can go on and on Aerospace and Space and satellite industry again china now has their own space station and landed on Mars and Beidou GPS is up and running. Industry after industry China catch up to the west
Semiconductor is no different it just technology given time China will catch and even surpass the west It is just the latest technology that China has to conquer. I don't believe the first move advantage. At one time Intel is the most advance semiconductor company but they slip up and fall behind the Asian giant like TSMC
China was behind because the Chinese industry does not want to invest in FAB They naively believe they can depend on the western supplier and merrily making money without investing in manufacturing THEY ARE WRONG AND THEY NOW PAY HEFTY SUM.
But now everybody on board with having secure supply line and once China make up their mind they will reached their goal They prove it over the year in myriad field of technology and given that they produce million of STEM graduate combine with hardworking and immense research facility that they built over the year it just mater of time that they will also conquered SEMI. Mark my word
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