CMP machinery is very important to developing any semiconductor device based on Cu interconnects (basically all logic devices with process nodes 10-130 nm node). It also doesn't change too much based on specific device. Overall a good achievement.
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CMP machinery is very important to developing any semiconductor device based on Cu interconnects (basically all logic devices with process nodes 10-130 nm node). It also doesn't change too much based on specific device. Overall a good achievement.
You can hear them gloating and celebrating but I wish this article was written in 2030 .Only then should we say that the US campaign was successful .I'm pretty sure the guys who came up with these sanctions are ordering another round of fine whiskey for this momentous achievement .
How shocked they will be 5 years from now .
How shocked they will be 5 years from now .
I would say that article was fake news.
This war between the United States government and Huawei, the only gains on the battlefield is Huawei phones sales went down, but that battle is not over yet.
On all the other fronts, they still fighting, and the United States government has not accomplish much of anything in terms of hobbling Huawei.
The point is to still build the 5G standalone network, then build applications on top of that. Huawei and China at least half way through the former, and already started the latter. Where is the United States in its progress here?
The WSJ article will not mention that.
That is winning in America nowadays.
What the United States wants to do in its war against Huawei, is to retain as many like minded nations on its side, so when American 5G gets rolling, there will be other countries using American 5G.
When will that happen, who knows? But it would be nice for the Americans that more countries are on its side when that happens, to achieve more economies of scale.
Problem there is that the telecom market, 5G development, and the 5G apps, none of that could be uniform, or applicable.
In short, does not even matter who is on who's side.
What 5G networks are, they are a tool. It is a means to an end.
What matters is how a country's industry and people will use the tool, and not who they bought the tool from.
China is already using that tool, and looks like they will be doing it in scale soon.
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Here is a question for the future.
Factories will be automated with 5G. Will unautomated 5G factories be competitive?
Probably not.
Would that mean all future factories be this high-tech.
Yes, probably.
(Therefore, if you fall too far behind in this 5G race, you might not recover).
When will that happen, who knows? But it would be nice for the Americans that more countries are on its side when that happens, to achieve more economies of scale.
Problem there is that the telecom market, 5G development, and the 5G apps, none of that could be uniform, or applicable.
In short, does not even matter who is on who's side.
What 5G networks are, they are a tool. It is a means to an end.
What matters is how a country's industry and people will use the tool, and not who they bought the tool from.
China is already using that tool, and looks like they will be doing it in scale soon.
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Here is a question for the future.
Factories will be automated with 5G. Will unautomated 5G factories be competitive?
Probably not.
Would that mean all future factories be this high-tech.
Yes, probably.
(Therefore, if you fall too far behind in this 5G race, you might not recover).
@horse Thank you bro for stating the obvious, after reading the first paragraph I don't bother to read the rest even without the letter head of WSJ you know instantly that they wrote it cause they all had a certain style just like Reuters, AP and even SCMP.I would say that article was fake news.
This war between the United States government and Huawei, the only gains on the battlefield is Huawei phones sales went down, but that battle is not over yet.
On all the other fronts, they still fighting, and the United States government has not accomplish much of anything in terms of hobbling Huawei.
The point is to still build the 5G standalone network, then build applications on top of that. Huawei and China at least half way through the former, and already started the latter. Where is the United States in its progress here?
The WSJ article will not mention that.
That is winning in America nowadays.
Right now I always looking forward on @foofy @WTAN @krautmeister @tokenanalyst @FairAndUnbiased @tinrobert ,yours and others for info, cause I know you had fact checked it and from the original source.
To be fair I don't think 5g will add a lot of extras to factories, given that most smart factories should already have WIFI 6 coverage. But let say a mining pit being able to remote control vehicles might be a good solution 5G can offer. Off course maybe 5G coverage might mean that factories don't have to install expensive WIFI 6 equipment.What the United States wants to do in its war against Huawei, is to retain as many like minded nations on its side, so when American 5G gets rolling, there will be other countries using American 5G.
When will that happen, who knows? But it would be nice for the Americans that more countries are on its side when that happens, to achieve more economies of scale.
Problem there is that the telecom market, 5G development, and the 5G apps, none of that could be uniform, or applicable.
In short, does not even matter who is on who's side.
What 5G networks are, they are a tool. It is a means to an end.
What matters is how a country's industry and people will use the tool, and not who they bought the tool from.
China is already using that tool, and looks like they will be doing it in scale soon.
------------------- -------------------
Here is a question for the future.
Factories will be automated with 5G. Will unautomated 5G factories be competitive?
Probably not.
Would that mean all future factories be this high-tech.
Yes, probably.
(Therefore, if you fall too far behind in this 5G race, you might not recover).
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why are you comparing 5G and Wifi 6?
It was more a comparison to with current smart factories. They are most likely already connected via wifi 6 and don't really need 5g to stay competitive.
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