Will be one in the future but the name put me down.I wouldn't think they tried to impress you, are you a big investor in that company?
Chinese semiconductor industry
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So how long I need to wait for actual photonic chip product? Can it replace intel or amd microprocessor in a laptop or desktop? How its going to work?@Oldschool bro you're right about photonic chips and the west is panicking ....LOL
from antonius123 (Pakistan defense forum)
Huawei enters the photonic chip, the Netherlands claims that the blockade of lithography machines is meaningless, Russia: underestimated China's strength
2021/04/04 11:05:01
According to Jilin TV, Huawei has taken a big move and bravely moved forward under the US chip ban, and started research in another field, namely photonic chips. The performance of this chip is better than existing chips, and does not require lithography machines produced by European and American companies. The Dutch media commented on this that the US lithography machine blockade is meaningless, and China may not need these equipment to produce high-end chips in the future. At the same time, the Russian media also attached great importance to this move by Huawei. They said that the United States underestimated the strength and determination of Chinese companies, and the blockade would only arouse challenges from Chinese companies.
Blocking the lithography machine is meaningless
For some time now, the White House has formulated a series of sanctions against Chinese semiconductor companies and communication technology companies. European and American companies are not allowed to sell goods or technologies to companies on the blacklist, including the Dutch ASML company. Manufacturing lithography machine. Huawei is one of the victims of these policies. The company's business relies heavily on high-end chips produced in Europe and the United States, but the United States does not allow companies that own these chips to do business with Huawei.
In order to break through this limitation, Huawei launched a big move and began to develop photonic chips. People who don't know about chips may have never heard of such chips. In fact, there are many different sub-fields in the semiconductor industry. The familiar chips basically belong to the field of integrated circuits, while the photonic chip belongs to the field of optoelectronics. The latter is not well-known, but the performance of the chip is far better than ordinary integrated circuits.
The advantage of the photonic chip is in the transmission performance, which can greatly improve the working efficiency of electronic equipment. Now the research on integrated circuits has gradually come to an end and is subject to physical boundaries. When the chip reaches the 2nm field, it is almost impossible to make a smaller chip. , Even if it succeeds, there is no guarantee that its performance will be greatly improved. On the whole, photonic chips are the future of the semiconductor industry.
The most important thing is that research in this field has just started, and European and American countries have not yet formed a monopoly. If China takes the lead in breaking through the application of photonic chips, it can reverse its current disadvantages. In addition, this chip manufacturing process is completely different from the past. It does not require a lithography machine at all, and will use brand-new manufacturing technology. The Dutch media have discovered the most critical point. They claim that the US lithography machine blockade will soon lose its effect. In the future, we may not need these lithography machines at all.
The Russian media did the same The conclusion that with the continuous iteration of technology, the formal significance of US sanctions will be greater than the actual effect. The reason is that the United States has underestimated the R&D capabilities of Chinese companies. The United States wanted to take this opportunity to completely eliminate the possibility of China's entry into the high-end semiconductor market. Unexpectedly, it inspires the courage of Chinese companies to overcome technical difficulties. At the moment, Huawei has taken the right step, pointing to the most cutting-edge chip technology research.
We have another magic weapon
In addition to the layout of photonic chip research, Chinese companies have also prepared another magic weapon, namely carbon-based chips, more accurately graphene chips. Once this chip is successfully developed, it will completely overturn the development trajectory of previous chips. After more than ten years of intensive work in this field, the scientists of the Chinese Academy of Sciences have achieved beautiful results. The first batch of graphene wafers have been offline and the finished products have been displayed to the public, demonstrating China's scientific research level.
This achievement has been recognized by people at home and abroad. China is not the only country studying graphene chips in the world, but there are not many countries that can produce qualified wafers. The introduction of these wafers means that China has ran ahead of many countries on this track and is expected to achieve technological surpassing in this field. All in all, the current chip predicament is not terrible. China is well prepared for the future by deploying photonic chips and graphene chips.
A lot of people have been working on optoelectronics and photonics for decades. It might eventually make its way into microprocessors but the most likely application at this time will be for network switches and routing. Eventually it might be used for communication between chips in the same motherboard. But the time until it will be used in actual microprocessors is a long time away if ever.
As for carbon nanotubes, a lot of companies are investing in research on using those to replace transistors at the 1 nm level. But the fact is no one knows exactly which future technology will win out by then. For what it's worth IBM demonstrated the first carbon nanotube based transistor many years ago. But there are loads of problems with manufacturing them reliably and cheaply enough.
Most of these developments will only come to fruition nearer the end of this decade or perhaps even after that. Even when they come into use they will not be general purpose like current silicon. At least not for a long time.
It doesn't replace yet. Huawei fab make those photonic interface chip for telcomm. It's one more area that Huawei doesn't depend on US vendors.
Also it's standard product it can sell to ZTE as well
The biggest significance is Huawei for first time get involved in semiconductor manufacturing. It hire many semiconductor engineers to build up it's core competency. Those engineers will get involved in other fabs as well in future. It's getting it's feet wet for the transformation to be IDM
Once it's officially done, then China should announce no Chinese companies should use any foreign chips at 28nm or above. No Chinese companies should use TSMC 28nm or above. No analog and automotive chips should be imported as they are all above 28nm.
So why he said west is panicking?
And what about foreign semiconductor companies that manufacture their products in china? You want to kick them out?
Even if they master the technique, do they have enough capacity?
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I don't understand why China would need to approve this deal, none is Chinese company ?
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