Chinese semiconductor industry

daifo said:

Just another article about possible involvement of smic and huawei

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Incoming copium:

Ackshually Guys.... US gov't gave "Approval" for SMIC and Huawei to re-enter 5G mobile tech in order to create strategic Chinese dependency on access to critical Western technology, which can be withdrawn at any time, ALL options are on the table.

In other words, they will never admit Chinese achieved self-sufficiency and their attempt to kill Huawei failed. They will spin it as US goodwill gesture and 4D chess move to keep Huawei dependent on Western tech.

Phead128 said:

Incoming copium:

Ackshually Guys.... US gov't gave "Approval" for SMIC and Huawei to re-enter 5G mobile tech in order to create strategic Chinese dependency on access to critical Western technology, which can be withdrawn at any time, ALL options are on the table.

In other words, then will never admit Chinese achieve self-sufficiency and their attempt to kill Huawei failed. The will spin it as US goodwill gesture and 4D chess move to keep Huawei dependent on Western tech.

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daifo said:

Just another article about possible involvement of smic and huawei

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These clowns still don't understand that you need rf front end chips to have 5g phones.

This goes much farther than just smic.

The first Huawei 5g phones will still be use Qualcomm snapdragon soc. The 5g modem can entirely be produced by non 7nm process.

We have really discussed this to death. The implications of Huawei going fully domestic 5g is earth shattering. It basically means the entire sanctions have been a failure.

It would not only mean the comeback of hw in hi end phones, but also smart wearables, internet of things, home electronics & notepads.

tphuang said:

These clowns still don't understand that you need rf front end chips to have 5g phones.

This goes much farther than just smic.

The first Huawei 5g phones will still be use Qualcomm snapdragon soc. The 5g modem can entirely be produced by non 7nm process.

We have really discussed this to death. The implications of Huawei going fully domestic 5g is earth shattering. It basically means the entire sanctions have been a failure.

It would not only mean the comeback of hw in hi end phones, but also smart wearables, internet of things, home electronics & notepads.

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Even so, definite hard no (from me and my loved ones) on using a HW that has Qcomm in it. Still hanging onto my old HiSilicon-dependent phone (still performing well) and waiting until the day when HW is back with HiSilicon (or another domestic alternative).

CMP said:

Even so, definite hard no (from me and my loved ones) on using a HW that has Qcomm in it. Still hanging onto my old HiSilicon-dependent phone (still performing well) and waiting until the day when HW is back with HiSilicon (or another domestic alternative).

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Should be fully Qualcomm free with nova series.

tphuang said:

Should be fully Qualcomm free with nova series.

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I'm already hooked on Mate X series (20) due to big screen and high quality, so I don't want to go for anything else. Here's to hoping Xs 3 or Xs 4 will be HiSilicon.

CMP said:

I'm already hooked on Mate X series (20) due to big screen and high quality, so I don't want to go for anything else. Here's to hoping Xs 3 or Xs 4 will be HiSilicon.

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My P30 PRO need a replacement BUT I'm waiting next year when Huawei introduced their 7nm chiplet smartphone.

Loongson from 1st half of the year. revenue down YoY in H1, but up in Q2 (Q1 was really poor). Compared to 2021, revenue down quite a bit

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行业普遍认为，CPU/GPU产品作为高端芯片，其自主创新较其他芯片设计企业更需要大量资源驱动。对于龙芯这样完全独立于Wintel体系和AA体系的开放性信息技术体系，进一步构建完善龙芯生态、增强向心力和生态发展的自驱力，无疑是更大挑战。

从此次半年报披露的研发进展来看，

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的研发重心，囊括高性能处理器微结构设计技术、图形处理器设计、互连及接口IP核设计技术、高性能物理设计平台、操作系统内核、软件兼容技术等多个方向。而上半年龙芯研发投入总额为2.68亿元，同比增长65.57%，占营收比重为86.94%。未来是否能保持高强度研发投入十分值得关注。

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other interesting thing is just how much they threw at R&D in 1st half. 268m RMB (when revenue was only 307m RMB). it's up 65.57%. So they are really devoting all their resources on R&D to complete development of 5000 & 6000 series + LoongArch ISA and support system

今年8月，

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宣布成功研制新一代处理器龙芯3A6000，较上一代龙芯3A5000桌面CPU，龙芯3A6000在相同工艺下单线程性能提升60%以上，全芯片多线程性能成倍提升。综合相关测试结果，龙芯3A6000处理器总体性能与

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2020年上市的第10代酷睿四核处理器相当。

上半年龙芯基本完成32核服务器产品3D5000的产品化，完成了3D5000双路、四路服务器设计，正在开展验证工作。同时对多款SoC、MCU及配套芯片进行了硅后验证或产品化工作。

GPU进展方面，

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正在推进龙芯图形处理器架构 LG100 系列图形处理器核的驱动软件产品化工作，上半年发布第一版驱动软件，支持7A2000、2K2000的GPU加速，同时已启动新一代LG200系列图形处理器核的研制

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I really hope for hte best for them, because they've done a lot and have suffered a lot due to development of their own ISA that is entirely sanction free

Investing in R&D and recruiting the best talents are the only way China could catch up and surpass the US and Western countries.

KYli said:

Investing in R&D and recruiting the best talents are the only way China could catch up and surpass the US and Western countries.

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I'm guessing there is a long line of queue that want to apply after being laid off from Intel and other FAB.