Chinese semiconductor industry
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Bro from what I learn from this forum, SMIC achieved 14nm using ASML DUVL, now they produced a 7nm using the same machine. So IF your question is about a domestic 14nm line then like you, all of us are waiting for an official announcement.
The aim is not total decoupling but to ensure that China is at least 2 gens behind across the entire semiconductor spectrum.
This has already been communicated and you can see it in their trade restrictions.
Decoupling is an unavoidable consequence of such actions.
So true bro so true, TSMC will be releasing its 3nm next year and 2nm by 2026, while in the US the TSMC FAB will be finished by 2024 and start producing 5nm in 2025, So in essence the American by 2026 will be 2 generation behind. So both the Chinese and the American are in the same boat...lol I'm saying this cause I believed by that time SMIC will be producing a 5nm Chip either thru a DUVL or EUVL.
What the American doesn't understanding even though the DPP is stupid and can be manipulated, the Taiwanese and TSMC in particular are NOT, IF the know how for achieving 3nm and 2nm chip stays in Taiwan, when the Chinese are able to have a functioning EUVL, they will use it to produce in China cause it's more cost effective and profitable thing to do. It's also the reason why Japan and the US had a JV on 2nm and EU had the same ambition. Globalization is dead and regionalism is in and Asia is where the action is and the American want a piece of the pie even though she has nothing to contribute.
Actually, when China does have a supply chain that can produce even 7 nm (let alone 5 or 3 nm), it's time to ramp up production to such a point that TSMC feels the pain of picking America ahead of mainland. Maybe this will take until 2030, but that should be goal. Have the weight of the Chinese government behind it. If Taiwan's power plant can't generate enough power for TSMC, then this is a great opportunity for mainland to just swamp the market with chips that may be 2 generations behind but are still probably sufficient for almost everything.
Exactly Sir especially the demand for 7nm in China is huge, even using a DUVL with added cost of multi pattern and masking there is profit to be made. By 2025 onward 5nm will become mainstream BUT with the current downturn we may see its mass usage move back by at least 3 years or more. So 7nm is crucial for China economic development in the next 5 years and we have a foot at the door so to speak to become self sufficient by late 2023 or early 2024, same with Intel IF their promise of mass producing a 7nm had been achieved. To make a story short by 2024 we have achieved parity with the US...
and the latter can't accept it....lol
As someone else said, achieved positional parity but at a high velocity of overtake and higher acceleration rateExactly Sir especially the demand for 7nm in China is huge, even using a DUVL with added cost of multi pattern and masking there is profit to be made. By 2025 onward 5nm will become mainstream BUT with the current downturn we may see its mass usage move back by at least 3 years or more. So 7nm is crucial for China economic development in the next 5 years and we have a foot at the door so to speak to become self sufficient by late 2023 or early 2024, same with Intel IF their promise of mass producing a 7nm had been achieved. To make a story short by 2024 we have achieved parity with the US...
You're so right bro, I really missed @Loveleenkr , whenever I post she always give me her emoji laugh....lol
Hope she comes back.
People participate in their own unique ways.
Here is a Chinese woman, who was actually supportive.
Fudge this. Some here have never been married before.
Hehe!
You guys just do not understand what you guys just got rid of.
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