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ansy1968

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Density of SMIC N+2 is 127 millions per millimeter square.
Density of TSMC N7+ is 117 millions per millimeter square. (the column after the PPA column)
@PopularScience bro it means that SMIC 7nm N+2 DUV is better than TSMC 7nm EUV? WoW!!! Liang Mong Song outdid himself, for me having comparable performance with TSMC N7 DUV is good enough for me!
 
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ansy1968

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N+2 improved , N+3 and N+4 require EUV?
@pbd456 bro from what I read SMIC had already research 5nm and 3nm, both may need an EUVL to progress BUT with Shanghai SN1 FAB having received a NXT 2050i , maybe they may have develop a 5NM DUV chips and may seek trial production in 2023?

The following is the full text of Liang Mengsong's resignation:
Letter to the Board of Directors
Hello, chairman and directors!
I know that we will make a very important personnel appointment decision at this meeting today.
Currently,
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is facing various pressures from the United States, leading to serious threats to the development of advanced technology. I believe that today's personnel proposal will inevitably affect the company's prospects.
It has been more than three years since I was appointed as the co-CEO by the board of directors in November 2017. In these more than 1,000 days, I almost never took a vacation. Even in June 2019, when I was experiencing life At the most dangerous moment, I never gave up, and I never let you down.
During this period, I tried my best to complete five generations of technology development from 28nm to 7nm. This is a task that an average company takes more than ten years to accomplish. And these results are obtained by more than 2,000 engineers led by me, working hard day and night. Of course, the trust and support of the chairman and the directors in the past is also a key element of success.
I originally came to mainland China not to seek high-ranking officials, but simply to contribute to the mainland's high-end integrated circuits. At present, 28nm, 14nm, 12nm, and n+1 technologies have all entered mass production, and the development of 7nm technology has also been completed. Risk mass production will be available in April next year. The 8 most critical and most difficult technologies of 5nm and 3nm have also been carried out in an orderly manner. Only when the EUV lithography machine arrives, we can enter the full development stage.
It seems that my short-term goal seems to have exceeded expectations and was successfully achieved.
I received a call from the chairman of the board on December 9th, last Wednesday morning: Mr. Jiang is about to become the vice chairman of the company. I was very surprised and puzzled about this, because I didn't know anything about it beforehand. I deeply feel that I am no longer respected and distrusted. I think you should no longer need me here to continue to work hard for the company's prospects. I can rest for a while.
After the company’s board of directors and shareholders’ meeting have approved Mr. Jiang’s nomination, I will formally submit my resignation. But the company should give a comprehensive and fair evaluation of my contribution over the past three years, and I should have the right to accept and appeal.
I solemnly tell you that I do not have the slightest intention to influence your next vote on this personnel appointment, but I think I should let everyone know my true feelings.
My statement hopes that Ms. Guo Guangli, secretary of the board of directors, can be included in the official meeting minutes of this interim board of directors.
Thank you all.
 

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@Yommie bro we may agree to disagree BUT I stood by my statement, the US will be among the great powers that include China, Russia, Brazil and @crang favorite India. I for one want China to be among the powerful nation not the sole superpower. The reason IF attain the sole superpower status, we may become complacent and look inward that started the hundred years of humiliation or become a hegemon like the US.
No, America will implode much quicker and much harder than most people here can possibly imagine... only way US will remain a Great Power by 2025 is if we take the baseline of India already achieved Hyperpower status in 2020
 

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@manatee988 bro with the incoming recession there is a major rethink regarding expansion among the FAB makers.

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100 bil?! Hell no you can built 50 fabs with that budget elsewhere.
No, America will implode much quicker and much harder than most people here can possibly imagine... only way US will remain a Great Power by 2025 is if we take the baseline of India already achieved Hyperpower status in 2020

The only way to save US now is Marty McFly and his car, making sure Trump's parents never met
 
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