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lube

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I don't think anyone doubt China could come up with an EUV scanner. But people doubt the unreasonable claim that this type of system could be had in a few year.

Really? From what I've seen, people were predicting China wouldn't even have a workable EUV prototype by 2030 even with max espionage efforts. Makes sense if you somehow thought EUV research is starting from 0 after the ASML ban.

Comforting, yes but those predictions are as useful as tea leaf reading.
 

tokenanalyst

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700 million Yuan! CIOMP Semiconductor Tech Top Commercialization Ranking in China​


A semiconductor laser technology by the Changchun Institute of Optics, Fine Mechanics and Physics (CIOMP), Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) is ranked the highest value research commercialization project in China, according to a latest report.
Released by the National Center of Science and Technology Evaluation, the “2021 Annual Report on Transformation of Scientific and Technological Achievements in China (Colleges and Research Institutes)” studies the commercialization of research achievements of 3,554 Chinese universities, colleges and research institutes in the year 2020. It was released on June 29 in Beijing.
A semiconductor laser technology, made possible by high-end semiconductor laser chips developed by a team of scientists led by Academician Wang Lijun, was valued at 700 million yuan, taking the top spot as the most valuable technological commercialization project in 2020.
This technology lays the technological foundation of Jiguang Semiconductor Technology Co. Ltd, which was jointed founded by CIOMP and local governments. The report revealed that CIOMP took half the share of the company with its technology, while the Jilin Provincial Government, Changchun Municipal Government and the Changchun Economic Development Zone District Government joining force to provide 700 million in actual funding.
Jiguang Semiconductor will meet the urgent need for high-end semiconductor chips in China, which is crucial for the development of optical communication, intelligent sensing, quantum information and advanced manufacturing industries, said a company executive.
The company will continue to work with CIOMP to build itself into a world-leading semiconductor laser R&D base and help to train more researchers and engineers to help the further development of semiconductor laser technology in China.

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FairAndUnbiased

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little old news but really significant. really really a big breakthrough done by China academy of science.

The domestic first self-developed terahertz scanning tunneling microscope system has been successfully developed in Guangzhou

Recently, the Aerospace Information Research Institute of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (Guangzhou Park)-Guangdong Greater Bay Area Aerospace Information Research Institute (hereinafter referred to as the "Greater Bay Area Research Institute") successfully developed a terahertz scanning tunneling microscope system, which is superior to the atomic level. (Angstrom-level) spatial resolution and better than 500 femtosecond temporal resolution, becoming the first self-developed terahertz scanning tunneling microscope system in China.

Scanning Tunneling Microscopy (STM) is a scanning probe microscopy tool for observing and locating single atoms, through the atomic-scale tip, at a height of less than one nanometer, to scan and image different samples with ultra-high precision. At low temperature, STM can precisely manipulate single molecules or atoms with the probe tip. It is not only an important micro-nano-scale measurement tool, but also a potential micro-nano processing tool. It can scan at the atomic level, detect and repair material surfaces, and guide microscopic chemical reactions. , control of atomic arrangement and other fields are widely used. However, conventional electrical modulation rates limit STM observations at higher temporal resolutions (generally on the order of microseconds). In 2013, Frank Hegmann, a professor at the University of Alberta in Canada , combined terahertz pulses and STM for the first time to achieve sub-picosecond time resolution and nanometer spatial resolution. Subsequently, German, American and other scientific research teams have carried out related technical research.

It took nearly 12 months for the terahertz research team of the Greater Bay Area Research Institute to break through the core key technologies such as terahertz and scanning tunnel tip coupling, terahertz pulse phase modulation, and successfully developed the first domestic terahertz scanning tunneling microscope (THz-STM). ). The microscope has Angstrom-level spatial resolution and sub-picosecond temporal resolution (improved by more than 1 million times), and can achieve precise detection (femtosecond-Angstrom level) with high temporal and spatial resolution at the same time. The ultrafast kinetic process of electrons provides a powerful technical means, which can be used in new quantum materials, micro-nano optoelectronics, biomedicine, ultrafast chemistry and other fields.

The research was funded by the National Natural Science Foundation of China Terahertz Basic Science Center, Guangdong Provincial Department of Science and Technology, Guangzhou City, Huangpu Development Zone and other related projects.

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Electron microscope technology can be used for metrology like the tools made by KLA-Tencor. It’s crucial to the semiconductor industry. The ultrafast kinetic process of electrons provides a powerful technical means, also can be used in new quantum materials, micro-nano optoelectronics, biomedicine, ultrafast chemistry and other fields.
This is a good fundamental science and high tech instrumentation achievement but this is also not an electron microscope. STM is a scanning probe technique and as scanning probe techniques are high resolution but slow throughput and low area. Their scan speed and area is limited by a physical stage movement. Electron beams can be split, as well as rastered far faster purely electronically.

Even CD-SEM for defect inspection is different than analytical SEM for R&D and failure analysis.

Chinese CD-SEM company already exists.
 

tokenanalyst

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It amazes me that after all China's done, all it's accomplished, all the countless times it's proved its skeptics and doubters wrong, there's still anyone on the face of the Earth stupid enough to bet against it.
Yeah. China is a country of surprises. in 2008 every "expert" was saying that China would not have an stealth jet until 2030. 2011 and China was flying the J-20. LOL. I personally won't get too excited on EUVL until i start to see some commercialization with companies as i am seeing with the DUVi project. But i know were you are coming bro, this is a military forum after all, we are accustomed to surprises.
 

broadsword

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Really? From what I've seen, people were predicting China wouldn't even have a workable EUV prototype by 2030 even with max espionage efforts. Makes sense if you somehow thought EUV research is starting from 0 after the ASML ban.

Comforting, yes but those predictions are as useful as tea leaf reading.

@hvpc was referring to the more knowledgeable people in the semiconductor industry which is where he came from. The average Western pundits would have no clue about China's potential.
 

horse

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Reading this closely, and of course, I don't understand it. It is IC after all.

It makes no sense.

It is the eternal question, the chicken or the egg - what came first?

This device where the patent applies, is for EUV. To enhance EVU applications.

EUV?

Where did that come from? Light source? And this device is a new innovation that requires a patent.

Since I am old school, the chicken came first and not the egg. Here, the egg is being patented. Where they hiding the chicken? Bok, bok. Bok, bok?!

Unless, we are saying, the egg came first.

Then how can they know how to make this device?

It is possible maybe they guess that this is how this device should work, given that EUV they would know the wavelenghts and other physics properties when it is in operation.

Still, that is some really serious kung fu if they did it this way without knowing the light source how it would operate under what conditions. If they did the egg came first thing.

They probably worked on their kicks a lot to be able to do this.

:oops::rolleyes:
 

hvpc

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Yeah. China is a country of surprises. in 2008 every "expert" was saying that China would not have an stealth jet until 2030. 2011 and China was flying the J-20. LOL. I personally won't get too excited on EUVL until i start to see some commercialization with companies as i am seeing with the DUVi project.
It's a well known fact that most patents do not materialized into something useful. I remember reading a Forbes article that claimed 95%(?) or 97% of patent do not even recoup its filing fee. So, I don't get excited over patent filings. Like you, I will wait until there's some evidence of commercialization before reacting.
 

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From following this thread, i get the impression that the various sub components of the 28nm DUVi machine are making good progress... except for the light source. The latest news i read regarding the light source project is Huawei's investment in RSLaser and nothing happened since then?
 

ansy1968

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From following this thread, i get the impression that the various sub components of the 28nm DUVi machine are making good progress... except for the light source. The latest news i read regarding the light source project is Huawei's investment in RSLaser and nothing happened since then?
bro RS laser have developed a 60k laser for SSA800 DUVL and the machine had finished its verification, its trying to ramp up production with U- Precision doubling its output as their new factory and expansion will be finished late next year.
 

sunnymaxi

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@hvpc was referring to the more knowledgeable people in the semiconductor industry which is where he came from. The average Western pundits would have no clue about China's potential.
western experts are salty , delusional. absolutely know nothing about China. these are market news. that China wouldn't even have a workable EUV prototype by 2030, China is collapsing. people of China is about to revolt against CPC. bla bla bla .

telling you one thing. after 2024-25, ASML will cry. China will also eat entire German optics industry in next few years. their time has come too.

nothing can stop China, this century belongs to Han people.
 
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