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gelgoog

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If it is part of a state program it probably means the prototype met the criteria to be approved for production.
At least the Russians seem to do things this way. The state certifies a design and then it can enter batch or mass production.
It would mean it passed their tests.
 

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Sanan to invest in mini/microLED​


The largest China-based LED epitaxial wafer and chip maker Sanan Optoelectronics will invest up to CNY7.9 billion (US$1.24 billion) to set up production capacity for miniLED and microLED chips at its production base in central China, according to industry sources.

The annual production capacity to be set up consists of 1.61 million GaN-based mini/microLED epitaxial wafers, 750,000 GaAs-based epitaxial wafers and 84,000 miniLED backlight units (BLU) for 4K display, the sources said.

Sanan has become a supplier of miniLED backlighting applications for Apple, Samsung Electronics and TCL, the sources noted.

For microLED R&D, Sanan has established a joint venture with China-based OLED panel maker Visionox Technology and another with China-based LCD panel maker China Star Optoelectronics Technology (CSOT), the sources indicated.

China-based EMS provider Wingtech Technology, by virtue of manufacturing automotive semiconductor components for many years, has stepped into development and production of min LED-backlit LCD panels and microLED panels for automotive displays, the sources said.

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With local lithography or ASML ? what lithography will be used? 28nm or higher ... likely 90nm I think
 

ansy1968

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Can you explain to a novice like me what "certified" mean in the original SSA800 article ? As in certified by SMIC for commercial production ?
@Rettam Stacf bro last year SMEE delivered 4 units of SSA800 DUVL, some say 3 units as posted by @Oldschool and 2 units by our esteem member @tokenanalyst for verification. Now Which Chinese company do the verifying? of the most optimistic four my speculation were SMIC Chengdu, YMTC, ICRD and Hua Hong, of the 3 you will have SMIC, ICRD AND YMTC and of the 2 SMIC and YMTC.

@Oldschool post from last year about the technical spec of SSA800 , not bad for its first try in Immersion DUVL.

SMIC Chengdu foundry, using Shanghai microlithography machine SSA800/10W immersion lithography machine Parameters: Lens NA: 1.35 Single exposure resolution: 38-41nm Double workpiece table: DWSi, the productivity is 200 wafers per hour Round overlay accuracy: better than 2.5nm Design index: can meet the process requirements of 28nm planar planner transistor logic circuit under single exposure conditions​

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SMIC Chengdu foundry, using Shanghai microlithography machine SSA800/10W immersion lithography machine Parameters: Lens NA: 1.35 Single exposure resolution: 38-41nm Double workpiece table: DWSi, the productivity is 200 wafers per hour Round overlay accuracy: better than 2.5nm Design index: can meet the process requirements of 28nm planar planner transistor logic circuit under single exposure conditions

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hello ansy1968.
here some tidbits for you. if you want to post it or do some research on it. or ask wtan for confirmation...etc.

2021年9月3日, 芯成都代工,采用上海微光刻机 SSA800/10W浸入式光刻机参数:镜头NA:1.35 单次曝光分辨率:38-41nm 双工件台:DWSi,产率在每小时200片晶圆 套刻精度:优于2.5nm 设计指标:能够在单次曝光条件下满足28nm平面planner晶体管逻辑电路工艺需求​


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Oct 21, 2021correction.中芯成都代工.. SMIC chengdu branch
Another milestone many of us would love to see will be an entire 28nm (and follow by 14nm) production line using all indigenous Chinese equipment being certified.
Bro look at @tokenanalyst post , that dude work so hard and he is a national treasure of SDF.
 
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gelgoog

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There is no SMIC Chengdu that I know of. It was sold. To US company Texas Instruments. It used to be part of Cension.
 

56860

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Haiyou!!!! The Chinese have a way for flowery words....lol. Just say it, the SMEE SSA800 is Certify!!!

The first domestic 28nm lithography machine is here, and the relevant certification has been completed. TSMC should be anxious​

2022-03-27 09:36 HKT

Anyone who knows the chip industry knows that the lithography machine is a technical problem that has plagued the domestic semiconductor industry for many years. It is precisely because of the serious shortage of the quantity and quality of the lithography machine that domestic chips can't really move to the high-end level. However, with the continuous strengthening of domestic emphasis on independent research and development, domestic lithography machines have gradually ushered in a turning point, and foreign monopolies will no longer exist.
The first domestic 28nm lithography machine is here, and the relevant certification has been completed. TSMC should be anxious

And just recently, according to media reports, the domestic 28nm lithography machine has come and the relevant certification has been completed. It is expected that the energy will be produced and officially put into use by the end of the year. So which manufacturer made this 28nm lithography machine? What does the debut of the domestic 28nm lithography machine mean?

Domestic 28nm lithography machine is coming​

First of all, we need to know that there is only one company that can independently produce lithography machines in China, and that is Shanghai Microelectronics, so this domestic 28nm lithography machine is undoubtedly from Shanghai Microelectronics.

The first domestic 28nm lithography machine is here, and the relevant certification has been completed. TSMC should be anxious

Specifically, the 28nm lithography machine of Shanghai Microelectronics recently passed the technical inspection and certification, although it is still only DUV level, there is still a big gap compared with ASML's EUV lithography machine. But this is a great breakthrough for China. The 28nm lithography machine can meet the production requirements of most chips.
In addition to the current most advanced 7nm and 5nm chips, the DUV lithography machine is completely sufficient, so after Shanghai Microelectronics' 28nm lithography machine goes online, the degree of autonomy of domestic chips will definitely be further improved. And since the end of last year, major domestic foundries have been expanding production lines for mature craft chips such as 28nm, and 28nm lithography machines can naturally play an important role.
The first domestic 28nm lithography machine is here, and the relevant certification has been completed. TSMC should be anxious


Many people may think that what is lacking in China is mainly advanced process chips, and the process technology below 28nm is not a problem. But as everyone knows, looking at the entire domestic semiconductor market, mature process chips such as 28nm are the most in demand. Aside from the mobile phone industry, these mid- and low-end processes are inseparable from other fields.
This is also one of the main reasons for those chip foundries to expand 28nm production capacity. They all determine supply through demand. Therefore, the debut of the domestic 28nm lithography machine is of great significance. It can help the country to establish a completely autonomous industrial chain, without relying on any foreign technology, and will not encounter problems such as supply cuts.

In addition, who said that 28nm lithography machine can not produce 7nm chips? Previously, TSMC had successfully achieved mass production of 7nm chips using DUV lithography machines through multiple exposure technology. We can follow the example of TSMC in China. Since we can't buy ASML EUV lithography machine, we might as well try it with DUV lithography machine. Maybe it really works.

The first domestic 28nm lithography machine is here, and the relevant certification has been completed. TSMC should be anxious

Therefore, the 28nm lithography machine of Shanghai Microelectronics is more critical than people think. As the only domestic manufacturer that can make lithography machines, Shanghai Microelectronics did not disappoint people this time. Moreover, 28nm is not the limit of Shanghai Microelectronics. As long as it continues to develop steadily, greater breakthroughs will be made in China, and it is not impossible to develop EUV lithography machines.
The first domestic 28nm lithography machine is here, and the relevant certification has been completed. TSMC should be anxious

Regarding this situation, the world's top lithography machine giant ASML did not expect it. It thought that without its own supply, our domestic lithography machine would continue to be in short supply, but it did not expect Shanghai Microelectronics to carry the banner. , Has injected new power into the domestic lithography machine.

In fact, ASML does not want to lose the Chinese market, but because of the influence of the United States, it can only choose to sit on the sidelines. For so many years, even an EUV lithography machine cannot be bought in China, which is the best proof. However, it now appears that China is not inseparable from ASML, Shanghai Microelectronics can completely replace it, and domestic lithography machines will rise smoothly.

TSMC should be anxious​

Not only that, after the domestic chip and lithography machine business frequently reported good news, TSMC should also be anxious, it did not expect the domestic progress to be so fast. There are three main reasons for this. As long as domestic chips develop, TSMC will become the biggest loser.


First of all, the first reason is that TSMC was originally the main foundry partner of Huawei in China. For more than ten years, it has been responsible for supplying chips for Huawei, and it has achieved a win-win result. However, what people did not expect was that TSMC abandoned Huawei and chose to join the United States as soon as the U.S. rules took effect.
Although TSMC is doing this for its own development, after all, its chip production line is inseparable from the technology of US companies. If it does not comply with US rules, it is likely to become the next "Huawei". However, from a domestic perspective, TSMC's actions are too fast. Huawei has been its partner for more than ten years. How can you give up and give up?

Therefore, after the Huawei incident, TSMC was unanimously disputed by the Chinese people. It is essentially a Chinese company, but it does not matter whether it is right or wrong, and it stands on the side of the United States. From the current point of view, the domestic market has begun to reject TSMC. After the full rise of domestic chips, TSMC will have no sense of existence, and its title of the world's first-generation factory will not play any role.
Lol. Game over. China has started running
 

ansy1968

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Min.news seems to be filled with translated news from China.
@caudaceus Yes bro, before I'm kind of skeptical at first so I refrain from posting it here BUT their reporting keep connecting the dotted. We have prejudice regarding Chinese news publication and need to double check its authenticity BUT after reading the Western one (mostly bias and not technical) about China IC, I become a believer...lol
 

european_guy

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And just recently, according to media reports, the domestic 28nm lithography machine has come and the relevant certification has been completed.

Sorry, but which media report? And what it means "recently"? 6 months ago?

The site min.news is a bit on the optimistic side, and I have seen in the past that often reshuffles old stuff as new. To have some confidence that is not just a new respin of an old news, we should understand which is the media report it refers to, or we need a confirmation from another site.
 

ansy1968

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Sorry, but which media report? And what it means "recently"? 6 months ago?

The site min.news is a bit on the optimistic side, and I have seen in the past that often reshuffles old stuff as new. To have some confidence that is not just a new respin of an old news, we should understand which is the media report it refers to, or we need a confirmation from another site.
@european_guy bro at least it doesn't come from Anonymous sources or Intelligence agency. ;) Joking aside it's up to us to believe and make our owned conclusion, you and I can discern, like I said we had our prejudice. When it came from the Chinese we need to fact checked BUT from the so called Western Publication it's a fact even though it came from a dubious sources.
 
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