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coolieno99

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would like a source for future debates with haters and racists.
I found the list from Jef Chen's post on a YouTube commentary .
It's the 16th comment on the following YouTube link. You can browse through the entire comment section, he posted about a dozen comparison comments.
WION is one of the most anti-China channel on YouTube

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ansy1968

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Enough said!!! Go east my friend Go east.

Volume production of 28-nm wafers in Nanjing will begin in the second half of 2022, reaching 40,000 wafers per month by mid-2023, said TSMC. Meanwhile, TSMC has started construction at a site in Arizona where it plans to spend $12 billion to build a computer chip factory. This means that many of its employees will get the chance to move to the US. But many refused it, but prefer more to go to the mainland

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weig2000

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This is an update to my earlier post on overseas foreign students returning to home country.

Percentage of students returning to their home countries after graduation
(USA Ivy League survey 2018):

South Korea = 98%
China = 97%
Taipei = 78%
Hong Kong = 65%
Malaysia 57%
Indonesia = 44%
Philippines = 9%
India = 0.2%

Be careful with your sources. I think the trend is unmistaken that more Chinese students have been returning to China these days, but the number 97% strikes me as too high. I don't have my own sources, it's more of a perception and anecdotal evidences.

There is a combination of different factors at play here. Certainly the attraction of domestic opportunities being one, but the US restrictions in terms of visa and fields of study are also a factor, as well as the deteriorating environment against Asian/Chinese but particularly against Chinese. My sense is that the real high-end talents or students in hot fields are staying put and finding opportunities in the US, if only for the time being.

Another thing to consider, there have been so many Chinese students coming to the US for studies in the last decade, such that most of these students are no longer considered to be more elite ones, unlike the generations before them. A vast majority of them are here just for the experience simply because their families can afford it. It's more difficult for them to find gainful employment opportunities and/or they don't care as much after graduation. As a result, the percentage of students returning to China after graduation is a lot higher than that of previous generations.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Be careful with your sources. I think the trend is unmistaken that more Chinese students have been returning to China these days, but the number 97% strikes me as too high. I don't have my own sources, it's more of a perception and anecdotal evidences.

There is a combination of different factors at play here. Certainly the attraction of domestic opportunities being one, but the US restrictions in terms of visa and fields of study are also a factor, as well as the deteriorating environment against Asian/Chinese but particularly against Chinese. My sense is that the real high-end talents or students in hot fields are staying put and finding opportunities in the US, if only for the time being.

Another thing to consider, there have been so many Chinese students coming to the US for studies in the last decade, such that most of these students are no longer considered to be more elite ones, unlike the generations before them. A vast majority of them are here just for the experience simply because their families can afford it. It's more difficult for them to find gainful employment opportunities and/or they don't care as much after graduation. As a result, the percentage of students returning to China after graduation is a lot higher than that of previous generations.
Also note that this is Ivy League only. These are the super elites students that could've gone anywhere. They are likely to be leaders in China, but guaranteed to forever be a worker in the US.
 

weig2000

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Also note that this is Ivy League only. These are the super elites students that could've gone anywhere. They are likely to be leaders in China, but guaranteed to forever be a worker in the US.

Depends on whether they're MBAs from Ivy League or PhDs in CS/AI from Stanford or MIT or Carnegie Mellon etc. Makes a huge difference.
 

AssassinsMace

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US itself is having its own brain drain. Not just lower appeal for new immigrants and transfer students, but there is also the decreasing birth rate, and Americans themselves moving out to work elsewhere.

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In the world of the alt-right, that doesn't register in their heads. They're already dumb as nails. They just need might and everything white. They hate intellectuals because they want people dumber than they are like the Presidents they vote for.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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US itself is having its own brain drain. Not just lower appeal for new immigrants and transfer students, but there is also the decreasing birth rate, and Americans themselves moving out to work elsewhere.

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their elites believe its an acceptable sacrifice.
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mirroring the 2020's decline. At this rate, the % of foreign talent in the US will decline to
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at around 5% at around the 2050's. However unlike the 1960's, there is no native born baby boom possible at this point.
 
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