Chinese Political Discussion Thread

[manqiangrexue]

For the four reasons I listed.

But your "reasons" are based on an assumption that is false, which is that China has taken a negative turn when in fact it has never been more powerful. So your reasons mean nothing; it's like making reasons for why the earth was destroyed yesterday.

He has allowed China's birth rate to fall by over 25% while still maintaining an anti-natalist policy of banning the third child, single parenthood, and freezing eggs. This year, the UN estimates the number of babies born on new year's in China fell from 46,000 to 35,000.

See, this is a great example of you trying to twist things. Xi scrapped the One Child Policy and allowed the second child; and you said he banned the third child. If he allowed the third, you'd say he banned the 4th. This logic is as rancid as your "reasons" for an event that never happened.

Did Mao Zedong post-1972, Hua Guofeng, Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin, and Hu Jintao bend over backwards? If he had just done what those leaders did the rising tensions would barely have been a ripple. He is the one who started all this to begin with. The best way to challenge American primacy is to strengthen China, and you can't do that by turning the whole world (except Russia) against you. And even with Russia, the *only* reason relations improved is because of the Euromaidan revolution, it has nothing to do with any moves Xi made.

You can't do the same thing at all stages of development. The key to success is to do the right thing at the right time, NOT doing the same thing all the time. Xi has strengthened China like no one before him and he has adapted to a West that is increasingly hostile as they inevitably realize China's power.

I feel strongly about the issue. I really don't talk about it a lot because I don't like to start too many fights, and because I hope I'm wrong and I keep looking for reasons why Xi is a good leader, because China needs him to be.

Don't worry; you're always wrong. And actually, you do talk about it a lot but you get beaten in debate every time so you have to keep it shut for a while before you come back to repeat the same defeated points. Xi's capability as a leader is evident in China's growth across all sectors and its incredibly efficient handling of COVID as compared to peers.

But when I see stuff like Xi attacking Chinese tech companies, which is the top goal of Pompeo and others, I admit I lose it a little.

You've lost it a lot, which is why your posts never make sense. Not all Chinese tech and their actions benefit China. Americans bust their own tech companies all the time when they don't like what they are doing. The decision of which things benefit China are not yours to make or judge; they belong to those with far more expertise and clearance than you. They are Xi's advisors.

Pompeo and other China enemies are probably sitting back laughing at Xi's attack on Chinese tech. On top of all the other stuff he's done it's just too much. One poster above credit Xi for MIC2025 but that's Li Keqiang's idea.

China's so successful I've never seen Pompeo do anything other than scowl when mentioning China. China's in everything he talks about; he's got no breathing room from the pressure of China's success.

When Li is gone and is replaced by a hardliner I wouldn't be surprised if China gradually shifted towards the North Korea economic model. It'll happen slowly so people don't notice.

And that's indicated by the fact that China's economy and share of world trade rises every year, right? Retardation level too high. Does not compute.

Xi is all about himself and not China.

Which is why Xi's drive to eradicate poverty in China is the most successful in history, right? You're all about falun gong fantasies, not about realism.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Xi Jinping is methodically destroying the Chinese nation.

First, he devastated China's foreign relations and ravaged China's reputation abroad.
Second, he collapsed China's demographic future and squeezed the very existence of it's young population.
Third, he morally stained the Chinese nation like never before with his pointless genocide of our Uyghur brothers.
Now, he is systematically destroying the value of China's tech economy with his never-ending crackdowns.

I don't see how any single person can look at him and think what he's doing makes sense. The idea that he is entitled to so much power is ridiculous. Deng had power because he was a long marcher, he brought China back from the Great Leap Forward, he survived the cultural revolution, and initiated reform and opening which was the greatest thing to happen to the Chinese people in thousands of years. Mao had power because he took a peasant army that was outnumbered 10-to-1 and finally rejuvenated the Chinese nation, united the country, ended the century of humiliation, and founded the People's Republic. What did the criminal Xi Jinping do to deserve power? Nothing. To compare Xi to Deng and Mao who made superhuman accomplishments is the biggest insult in history.

Your comment honestly passed the f..k out of me since all of it are hogwash and outright lies. You are literally quite scummy with your fact free commentary that are designed to be incendiary perhaps to rile some of the people on this forum.

But your "reasons" are based on an assumption that is false, which is that China has taken a negative turn when in fact it has never been more powerful. So your reasons mean nothing; it's like making reasons for why the earth was destroyed yesterday.

See, this is a great example of you trying to twist things. Xi scrapped the One Child Policy and allowed the second child; and you said he banned the third child. If he allowed the third, you'd say he banned the 4th. This logic is as rancid as your "reasons" for an event that never happened.

You can't do the same thing at all stages of development. The key to success is to do the right thing at the right time, NOT doing the same thing all the time. Xi has strengthened China like no one before him and he has adapted to a West that is increasingly hostile as they inevitably realize China's power.

Don't worry; you're always wrong. And actually, you do talk about it a lot but you get beaten in debate every time so you have to keep it shut for a while before you come back to repeat the same defeated points. Xi's capability as a leader is evident in China's growth across all sectors and its incredibly efficient handling of COVID as compared to peers.

You've lost it a lot, which is why your posts never make sense. Not all Chinese tech and their actions benefit China. Americans bust their own tech companies all the time when they don't like what they are doing. The decision of which things benefit China are not yours to make or judge; they belong to those with far more expertise and clearance than you. They are Xi's advisors.

China's so successful I've never seen Pompeo do anything other than scowl when mentioning China. China's in everything he talks about; he's got no breathing room from the pressure of China's success.

And that's indicated by the fact that China's economy and share of world trade rises every year, right? Retardation level too high. Does not compute.

Which is why Xi's drive to eradicate poverty in China is the most successful in history, right? You're all about falun gong fantasies, not about realism.

Thanks for taking the time to rebut that person's delusional rant against Pres.Xi's supposed "failings." If that's the record of failure then am sure just about every leader in the 5 eyes alliance would wish to have Xi's massive success.

I think that person (gogogadget) is fundamentally dishonest and is intentionally provocative with his pointless drivel against anything China related. I don't wish him gone or banned because he's a useful tool to be around since the person mirrors the western derangement syndrome on China.

 

[gelgoog]

The current US-China conflict has nothing to do with Xi. Just look at what happened to Japan in the 1980s.
Just because China became competitive, the US will do anything to sabotage them and their industries.

 

[ansy1968]

The current US-China conflict has nothing to do with Xi. Just look at what happened to Japan in the 1980s.
Just because China became competitive, the US will do anything to sabotage them and their industries.

Yeah @gelgoog its all about competition, the US being a hype champion need to use his other tools to hit back after receiving some initial blow and that include the media. So bro we are in the early stage of the fight and China hadn't show his Kung Fu moves yet...LOL

 

[voyager1]

Yeah @gelgoog its all about competition, the US being a hype champion need to use his other tools to hit back after receiving some initial blow and that include the media. So bro we are in the early stage of the fight and China hadn't show his Kung Fu moves yet...LOL

Yes thats why they are so afraid of China.

They did a trade war which blew up on their faces, they started tech war which will blow up on their faces in the next 5 years. And how did China respond? They just waited and waited and by small moves here and there they destroyed US' strategies, see RCEP, CAI etc


So the US has already started playing some of their cards.

Honk Kong - lmao China found an excuse to better and faster integrate it with the mainland, thanks Trump.

Trade war - total failure

Tech war - on going but in my opinion this will be a total failure in the next 5 years.

Uighurs/Xinjiang - the genocide claim is laughable and noone is buying it except the US vassal states. Maybe they will achieve together with the EU to place total bans for exports from there.

SCS - busted on the 2015 when US folded and left Philippines on the cold against China. Thats why Duterte is now coming closer to the China's camp and is openly blackmailing the US for money if they want their base rights to continue lol

Japan - their island is already unofficially patrolled all year round by the Chinese coast guard, and with the new coast guard law passed allowing to fire on intruders that is a warning for Japan. We will see how Japan will react but for now nothing happened while China is steadily advancing

India - Modi smelled that China was weak during the covid situation and it backfired tremendously. If you haven't noticed, Modi has still not come and said.anything about China even after China got so much land. After the recent developments of both countries mutually withdrawing, India got a lesson to dont try its luck again and the US got the lesson that India wont sacrifice itself for US hegemony.

South Korea - already closer to China than ever before. I predict neutrality if anything happens between US-China which obviously benefits China. We will see what S.Korea get from China as a reward. Probably N.Korea unification/peace declaration or include S.Korea tech as Chinese homegrown tech to allow better access in their market

EU - Plenty of talk there but when it came to walk the walk they signed the Investment agreement! EU will remain neutral on this. Good news for China

Russia - Getting closer to China by the day. The more the West sanctions Russia they more they push it closer to China. Thanks Obama, Trump, Biden

 

[AndrewS]

. But when I see stuff like Xi attacking Chinese tech companies, which is the top goal of Pompeo and others, I admit I lose it a little. Pompeo and other China enemies are probably sitting back laughing at Xi's attack on Chinese tech.

So what happens if Ant Financial causes a financial crisis?
Over the years, Ant has turned into a bank, and therefore should be regulated like one.
This should have happened long ago.

And are you seriously suggesting that Alibaba and Tencent should be allowed to continue with anti-competitive practices like forcing restaurants to only choose a single delivery platform?
Restaurants should be allowed to sell food with any platform that they want to.

The list goes on and on.

 

[Reclaimer]

Can't find a topic for China's foreign policy, so posting here.

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Not sure about the reliability of the website, but I'm a bit torn on my opinion about what the Chinese government should do. While the government has a non-interference foreign policy, the UN has "pushed" China to "pick a side" when it made a call for international condemnation of the situation in Myanmar.

With the way the situation is progressing, there's a chance that the situation could turn into civil war. In my opinion, the Chinese government should try to mediate between the military and overthrown government to try to come up with some new agreement, maybe another election with new candidates.

 

[vincent]

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Not sure about the reliability of the website, but I'm a bit torn on my opinion about what the Chinese government should do. While the government has a non-interference foreign policy, the UN has "pushed" China to "pick a side" when it made a call for international condemnation of the situation in Myanmar.

With the way the situation is progressing, there's a chance that the situation could turn into civil war. In my opinion, the Chinese government should try to mediate between the military and overthrown government to try to come up with some new agreement, maybe another election with new candidates.

Not China‘s problem and it is offtopic

 

[voyager1]

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Chinese officials who let a convicted murderer walk free just months into a 15-year sentence have been exposed in a web of corruption dating back decades.
In a statement released on Wednesday, the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region judicial authority in China said a years-long investigation had found 84 officials were involved in the scandal that saw the killer serve just three months of his sentence almost three decades ago in 1992.

Wow what a shithole. Now I see why Xi himself he will clean up the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, there is huge corruption happening there