Chinese military exports to other countries
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Turkey will determine whether to incorporate HQ-9 into its air defence network (and work out any potential integration kinks with NATO systems) within a year.
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I have a feeling that this is turning into Turkey's version of the Su-35 sale.
Equation
Lieutenant General
I thought Turkey wanted a separate system of their own, that's not integrated with NATO?
Miragedriver
Brigadier
China, Russia companies sign 10 framework deals at Innoprom industrial trade fair
This includes cooperation in building underground railways, developing rail transportation services, exchanging construction materials as well as legal proceedings, automated systems and robotics
YEKATERINBURG, July 13. /TASS/. Chinese companies have signed 10 framework agreements with Russian partners on cooperation in various branches of industry during an international industrial trade fair held in Russia's Urals city of Yekaterinburg from July 8 to 11.
Tian Yongxiang, China’s consul general in Yekaterinburg, told journalists on Monday: "This year, China has acted as a partner country of the Innoprom fair. A big delegation from our country has arrived in Yekaterinburg."
"Some 130 companies have taken part in the exhibition. Ten of them have already signed framework agreements with Russian partners," Tian told a news conference at the TASS-Urals regional information centre.
He said the accords referred to cooperation in building underground railways, developing rail transportation services and exchanging construction materials as well as working together in the worlds of legal proceedings, automated systems and robotics.
"Russian and Chinese companies continue bilateral meetings at the moment to formalize the agreements achieved and start implementing joint projects," Tian added.
The Innoprom fair, organized under the patronage of the Russian Ministry for Industry and Trade, is dedicated to intelligent technologies, materials and solutions resulting in higher production efficiency.
It assembles enterprises and companies offering solutions for production modernization and creating technologies that increase efficiency, speed and quality, and improving the ecological performance of manufacturing processes.
This year’s forum has attracted representatives from 46 Russian regions and more than 70 countries worldwide. The biggest delegation came from China.
Last year, Russia invited China to become its partner country at Innoprom-2015. This was announced at a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Shanghai.
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This includes cooperation in building underground railways, developing rail transportation services, exchanging construction materials as well as legal proceedings, automated systems and robotics
YEKATERINBURG, July 13. /TASS/. Chinese companies have signed 10 framework agreements with Russian partners on cooperation in various branches of industry during an international industrial trade fair held in Russia's Urals city of Yekaterinburg from July 8 to 11.
Tian Yongxiang, China’s consul general in Yekaterinburg, told journalists on Monday: "This year, China has acted as a partner country of the Innoprom fair. A big delegation from our country has arrived in Yekaterinburg."
"Some 130 companies have taken part in the exhibition. Ten of them have already signed framework agreements with Russian partners," Tian told a news conference at the TASS-Urals regional information centre.
He said the accords referred to cooperation in building underground railways, developing rail transportation services and exchanging construction materials as well as working together in the worlds of legal proceedings, automated systems and robotics.
"Russian and Chinese companies continue bilateral meetings at the moment to formalize the agreements achieved and start implementing joint projects," Tian added.
The Innoprom fair, organized under the patronage of the Russian Ministry for Industry and Trade, is dedicated to intelligent technologies, materials and solutions resulting in higher production efficiency.
It assembles enterprises and companies offering solutions for production modernization and creating technologies that increase efficiency, speed and quality, and improving the ecological performance of manufacturing processes.
This year’s forum has attracted representatives from 46 Russian regions and more than 70 countries worldwide. The biggest delegation came from China.
Last year, Russia invited China to become its partner country at Innoprom-2015. This was announced at a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Shanghai.
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Blackstone
Brigadier
Agreed. Also, recent protest in Turkey over Uyghurs in Xinjiang might delay the HQ-9 deal even more.
broadsword
Brigadier
I don't think the Uighur issue will factor into Turkey's procurement. Already, President Erdogan does not intend to raise the matter with the Chinese on his upcoming visit. Turkey may not be happy with the situation in Xinjiang, but the problem is not so big as to boil over to their defense priority.
Any information on what areas the MBT-3000 performed poorly in?
shen
Senior Member
Losing the contract doesn't necessarily mean MBT-3000 performed poorly or failed in any areas. Remember the Pakistani also have several hundred old T-80UD. The T-84 deal reportedly includes TOT that can be used to upgrade the old T-80UD.
But one area that T-84 Oplot-M is clearly superior to the MBT3000 is propulsion. This deal supposedly include the 1,500hp 6TD-3. More power in a much more compact size. The TD series of engines have really matured. Arguably the best tank engine in the world right now.
janjak desalin
Junior Member
Sorry that I can't provide a source, it was one of the Pakistani defense sites, but what I read is that it wasn't so much that the MBT-3000 failed as it was that the Pakistani decision makers determined that T-84 Oplot-M capabilities and characteristics were a better fit with particular Pakistani operational requirements.
Those are factors also. I asked only because Sinosoldier specifically said that the MBT-3000 had failed Pakistani evaluation trials.