Chinese Military Exports (Land Systems)

More images of Desert Cross 1000-3 ATVs at the Russian frontlines.

Does this counts as arms support to Russia or it doesn't because the platform itself is unarmed with Chinese weapons?

no_name said:

Does this counts as arms support to Russia or it doesn't because the platform itself is unarmed with Chinese weapons?

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If this is arms support to Russia then DJI/FPV drones are arguably worse offenders.

no_name said:

Does this counts as arms support to Russia or it doesn't because the platform itself is unarmed with Chinese weapons?

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If this counts as arms export to Russian, then Toyota should be the biggest terrorists supporter on this planet.

You guys do have a point.

Toyota and dji have mainly civilian markets. This one seems to be designed for military requirements though.

The Desertcross 1000-3 is also available in the US.

supercat said:

The Desertcross 1000-3 is also available in the US.

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In fact, it seems Odes Shandong factory is/was a subsidiary of an American company called Odes Industries LLC:

Here's a business news from 2019 about Shandong factory hosting delegation from National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine. It mentions that the Shandong company was an investment by Odes in America.

Odes Industries LLC seems to have had a website at , but that address is defunct now. There was also this news;

ODES, which currently has a manufacturing plant in Shandong, China, recently signed a deal to build a new facility in 2018 in the south of China near Shanghai, since the majority of the company’s small parts suppliers are located in that region.

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This was their company logo:


There's a similar sounding company that's alive called Odes Powersports that also sells ATVs, with this as company logo:


I had assumed it was the same company (and so thought it's amusing that the Chinese branch of an American company is supplying vehicles to Russian Army), but actually upon closer inspection at the company website it says in small print:


So perhaps the original Odes Industries went under, their Chinese operations survived on their own and another company sprang up in the US taking the name and logo design to rub off on the brand name.

^^^So it's probably a different ATV from PLA's own CS-VP11 4x4, which has a engine in the mid-body (picture below). The Desertcross series seem to have engines in the front.

Looks like it may have a truck like load beam rather than car like chassis.

Rare images of Indonesia's Type 90B 122mm MLRS.