Chinese MALE, HALE (and rotary, small, suicide) UAV/UCAV thread

[valysre]

You see all these rifle looking drone jammers meaning they have to be directed at the drone to work so why don't they have night-vision/FLIR drones? They're putting assault rifles on flying drones. Why not a sniper rife? People coming out in the cover of night. You can have a sniper rifle loitering on high picking people off.

Stability required for accurate long-range fire is likely not achievable with current drone propellor technology.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Stability required for accurate long-range fire is likely not achievable with current drone propellor technology.

They have an assault rife firing fully automatic and it looks relatively pretty stable. You only need one shot for a sniper rifle and it just has to readjust afterwards. Once you have suppression fire going off, chances are they're going to see where it comes from.

 

[totenchan]

They have an assault rife firing fully automatic and it looks relatively pretty stable.

It doesn't look stable at all

 

[AssassinsMace]

It doesn't look stable at all

Then why put a machine gun on a flying drone at all? It does have to aim... A machine gun is going to be shaking after it starts firing. A sniper rifle just needs one shot. At night they're not going to see it up in the sky so it can be anywhere close enough to get off a shot and adjust for the next one. If you watch footage of drones flying during the day light carrying explosives, the enemy doesn't know they're there until the last moment. Look at Hezbollah drones flying over Israeli strategic sites. The Israeli military didn't even know about it until it posted on the internet. At night it makes it even more difficult to spot.

 

[Wrought]

Then why put a machine gun on a flying drone at all? It does have to aim... A machine gun is going to be shaking after it starts firing. A sniper rifle just needs one shot. At night they're not going to see it up in the sky so it can be anywhere close enough to get off a shot and adjust for the next one. If you watch footage of drones flying during the day light carrying explosives, the enemy doesn't know they're there until the last moment. Look at Hezbollah drones flying over Israeli strategic sites. The Israeli military didn't even know about it until it posted on the internet. At night it makes it even more difficult to spot.

The precision of accuracy required for suppressive fire is considerably lower than the precision required for sniping.

 

[AssassinsMace]

The precision of accuracy required for suppressive fire is considerably lower than the precision required for sniping.

And it has to be close enough to seem dangerous. You can tell how close fire is by the sounds it makes whizzing by. The first shot will be the most stable which is good for sniping.

 

[Wrought]

And it has to be close enough to seem dangerous. The first shot will be the most stable.

Yes, point being that "close enough to seem dangerous" and "direct hit" are two very different things. Sane people are generally not eager to stand in the open when there are lots of bullets flying around in their general vicinity. None of them actually need to hit. Hence suppression.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Yes, point being that "close enough to seem dangerous" and "direct hit" are two very different things. Sane people are generally not eager to stand around in the open when there are lots of bullets flying anywhere close to their general vicinity. Hence suppression.

I edited my post before you posted.

 

[Wrought]

I edited my post before you posted.

Your edit does not change the point. Soldiers do not pull out calculators to measure exact distances when they come under fire. They take cover.

"I'm going to gamble my life on that shooter having terrible aim this time and every time" is simply not a sane reaction.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Your edit does not change the point. Soldiers do not pull out calculators to measure exact distances when they come under fire. They take cover.

"I'm going to gamble my life on that shooter having terrible aim this time and every time" is simply not a sane reaction.

If you know the bullets are not going to be anywhere near you, you're not going to be ducking as much. Then why do they have anti-drone guns? They have to pop up to aim meaning they're exposing themselves.