chinese laser weapon development

shen

Senior Member
About the small projectile, something about it just doesn't look right. First, it doesn't look any artillery shell I've seen. Where is the fuse well? The closest shell I can think of is capped armor piercing shell without the ballistic cap. Perhaps an old naval APC shell?
Second, it is difficult to believe that neat little hole is made on the shell while it is in flight.
Third, doesn't the area around the hole look dented? Like the hole was made by a kinetic projectile?
 

broadsword

Brigadier
10kw won't be very useful.

For a truly useful laser of 100+kw at sea you'll need IEPS.

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Also, it's worth clarifying again that the 10kw laser is the small laser used to shoot down tiny drones. It's nowhere near as powerful as you want for a military laser able to shoot down missiles, shells, and aircraft.

I remember reading a few years ago that China was lagging in electrical energy storage to be used for high energy laser on board ships. But with the advent of lithium-phosphate batteries made by BYD for grid storage, can the problem be solved? They had installed a 36 Mega-Watt-Hours (MWh) of the energy storage package in Hebei.
 
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plawolf

Lieutenant General
The large cone is the shell and thermal shield for a ballistic missile, but I think the laser test was done at ground level and the missile cone was stationary.

The scorch markings from an even ring around the melted wound in the side of the cone, and is consistent with thermal conduction of the heat from the laser to the surrounding areas. Most tellingly, the tip of the come shows no signs of scorching as you would expect it this was a live missile test.

The very fact that the missile cone is so intact would also rule out a live test as the pure kinetic energy of impact would have obliterated the missile cone and made post test analysis almost impossible (which is why live tests are typically done on live warheads as the detonation of the warhead would be evidence enough of a successful test without having to try and out Humpty Dumpty back together after the projective hits the ground to try and find the hole the laser made).

That would put this test as much earlier during the development stages of a tactical or strategic laser weapon, at the proof of concept stages, to validate that the laser is powerful enough to penetrate the thermal shield of a ballistic missile warhead.

There is no date for the test against the ballistic missile cone, so its anyone's guess when that was done and what progress has been made since on it.
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
Not to mention totally unsuitable, as I don't think AA guns can effectively track such small, lower flying targets as commercial drones, never mind be able to effectively engage them. Police would probably have a far better chance of shooting such things down with their sidearms.

But this is a very interesting technology development that fills a new niche. I can see it being popular if ever offered up for export.

especially for VIP protection. I imagine the Chinese secret service would be fairly interested in acquiring a few of these to deploy around the presidential palace.
 

shen

Senior Member
I was just looking over some pictures of the CE-5-T1, noticed the reentry capsule also have an uneven burn mark. not sure.

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The large cone is the shell and thermal shield for a ballistic missile, but I think the laser test was done at ground level and the missile cone was stationary.

The scorch markings from an even ring around the melted wound in the side of the cone, and is consistent with thermal conduction of the heat from the laser to the surrounding areas. Most tellingly, the tip of the come shows no signs of scorching as you would expect it this was a live missile test.

The very fact that the missile cone is so intact would also rule out a live test as the pure kinetic energy of impact would have obliterated the missile cone and made post test analysis almost impossible (which is why live tests are typically done on live warheads as the detonation of the warhead would be evidence enough of a successful test without having to try and out Humpty Dumpty back together after the projective hits the ground to try and find the hole the laser made).

That would put this test as much earlier during the development stages of a tactical or strategic laser weapon, at the proof of concept stages, to validate that the laser is powerful enough to penetrate the thermal shield of a ballistic missile warhead.

There is no date for the test against the ballistic missile cone, so its anyone's guess when that was done and what progress has been made since on it.
 
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