Chinese infantry fighting vehicles

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chuck731

Banned Idiot
Broccoli said:
Type 85 APC with 105mm gun for export.
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This seems like a repeat of the concept Argentina put into practice with the Tanque Argentino Mediano. It basically involved putting a 105mm turret patterned after the turret from Leopard 1A4 MBT onto a hull based on Marder 1 Infantry combat vehicle.
 
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chuck731

Banned Idiot
Equation said:
A good example of this would be the former Soviet Union mass produced huge amount of tanks and armored units that fits into the terrain and weather of Europe during the Cold War bordering along most of Eastern Europe.
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Yes, the cold war confrontation across central Europe did a remarkably good job of clarifying and stabilizing operational requirements for land force equipements. As a result both sides were willing to commit to large production runs of standardized equipment over long periods, to such an extent that equipment meant for the particular environment of NATO-Warsaw confrontation became the bench mark by which to measure "conventional" land force equipment designs everywhere, even where such equipment might not really suite.

Notice once the cold war confrontation evaporated, both NATO states and former Warsaw pact states have now reverted back to the mode where they would produce a variety of relatively narrowly focused equipment, rather adventurous in design, in relatively small production batches.
 
Equation

Equation

Lieutenant General
chuck731 said:
More importantly, they afford no overhead protection. In modern battle environment with cluster munition, these are little death traps.
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I think it's more use for recon on rough and mountainous and hilly terrain. It is used for rapid deployment in small groups to observe and be a part of a forward operating units, but not for fighting head on with heavier equip units. Just think of it as a bigger wheel US Army Hummer.
 
shen

shen

Senior Member
Bltizo said:
The PLA really do love these little ATVs... they've stuck HMGs, and even MLRS on top, and now this interesting eight rocket/missile set up.
I'm not really sure how effective these will be, even if they are usually paired with Mi-17s and can carry a crew of six with gear. Good for utility and fast maneuver, but if they get anywhere near a fifty cal, they're dead. Not to mention guided rockets or heaven forbid, anti tank missiles -shudder-
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Aren't these ATVs only deployed with one experimental rapid deployment brigade in Chengdu MR? Think Tibet. The only reason to deploy these ATVs is because they can be internally transported by Mi-17. The proper comparison would be soft-skinned Landrover type vehicles. They are transports not IFVs. They give airmobile infantry more mobility and allow them to carry heavier firepower.
 
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Equation

Lieutenant General
shen said:
Aren't these ATVs only deployed with one experimental rapid deployment brigade in Chengdu MR? Think Tibet. The only reason to deploy these ATVs is because they can be internally transported by Mi-17. The proper comparison would be soft-skinned Landrover type vehicles. They are transports not IFVs. They give airmobile infantry more mobility and allow them to carry heavier firepower.
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They can be transported on land or river by boats to conduct rapid deployment along the banks of the river as well in river delta's and heavy vegetation areas.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
SteelBird said:
Aren't they afraid that flame from the missile/rocket would hurt the operators?
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Presumably this is the rear quarter of the missiles. When they fire the driver and passenger likely get out and fire. as to the missiles back blast, It's likely the missile fires kinda like a RPG that is you have the launching charge that propels it from the launcher then at a safe distance the real charge engages.
 
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