Chinese Geopolitics
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True, but western media is always in interference of China's geopolitical non-interference by criticizing and downplaying it.
Well, I suppose there is too much of a free press/media reporting in the West, that at times are not too honest and bias in their reports. The other extreme is the press/media in China, Russia and a few other countries that are tightly controlled. My preference is for the free press with all its "warts", but one has to be always conscious of misreporting and news bias about some countries. With the global "info explosions" in the social media, not easy to hide or lie - unless to a gullible audience, and there are some of them.
The problem is not there are some of them....they are the majority!! Of course anyone would want free press, who wouldn't? But is everyone responsible, educated and sensible enough to form the correct opinion on a published report? Even so, one can also make the wrong opinion base on fallacies that never even crossed his mind. Sometimes we don't even know we have been brainwashed and indoctrinated by society and the mass media.
Sometimes, different cultures think very differently about things. Westerners admire and value diamonds for it's perfections, while East Asians admire and value jade for its imperfections. Classical Western paintings are adored for their details and complexity, while classical Oriental paintings are adored for their abstractness and simplicity. Long term in the Western business context is short term to East Asians.
While in a sense I do agree with what you are saying; I don't agree with the idea that you speak and definitely not the examples that you chose.
To make a claim that someone's opinion or perspective is irresponsible, under-educated and sensible -> and is affected by a certain brainwashing and indoctrination - is to claim that you know what they have been through and is able to for such a judgement. Which in reality is impossible to do; and hence is also in agreement to the idea that your statement is also under-educated and since you also have not considered all possibilities: irresponsible.
I am not against you, but only trying to point out the fallacy of saying other people are brainwashed or indoctrinated.
Which is also to say, culturally, Chinese people think in absolutes, good-evil, right-wrong, honorable-dishonorable etc. Not all westerner admire diamonds, not all Chinese prefer jade. Some oriental paintings do have detail and complexity - often finely crafted with gilded paints and all, and some western paintings are abstract - Van Gogh? Business models, the VOC, BIC and other european trade companies lasted 400 some years, the US model by Vanderbilt, Rockerfella had been around for 100s years; we can say that the Chinese toxic manufacturing model right now will end relatively shortly - either the people die of the toxins or if the government tightens laws.
What I am saying is, those absolute statements are not true. again, no insult intended.
bajingan
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I think it is a bit of a waste to not to put more attention on foreign policy at this period of time to be honest, under Obama administration Russia restored crimea back to her territory, and by the looks of things probably the rest of eastern Ukraine as well.
I wonder what can China get back if she can be a bit more aggressive on her territorial disputes, well she better hurry up its only 3 years left until the next election.
I think that would be a very bad idea. There is a difference between the way Russia is being viewed in the world today and the way China is being viewed in the world today. Russia is largely being seen as a has been in the world that is clinging on to its former glories while China is being seen as the brass up start in the world. In other words Russia is being seen as the past while China is being seen as the future. And there for the threat perception about China is much larger then Russia. Russia is merely being seen as a troublemaker while if China would to do something like this it would be seen as a major threat to world peace. US house representative Dana Rohrabacher has already said that we shouldn't pick a fight with the Russians because in the future we need them to counter the Chinese !
And on top of that China doesn't have 8500 nuclear warheads to back up any of her actions like the Russians.
bajingan
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I agree with this, I think the lesson that the world learned from Ukrainian crisis is that nuclear weapons are the ultimate guarantor of national security, international treaties and alliances are not worth the paper they are signed on, the more the merrier, the only reason why Ukraine are in this position is because she gave up her nuke arsenal in return of security guarantee by the US and Russia ( I can't even begin to imagine their regret), the only reason why there will be no military option in Ukraine is because of Russia strategic nuke forces, the only reason why there is no invasion of Pakistan even though they armed the Taliban to the teeth and hide Osama bin laden is because they have nukes, and when you have massive nuclear arsenal, basically you eliminate military option off the table, the only option left is economic sanctions.
I hope China take notice of this and beef up her tiny nuclear arsenal, because frankly that's the only effective way to deter a superpower.
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No insults taken. I think you pretty much got the idea. Sometimes it's kinda hard to express in a short essay of what exactly I meant. Nevertheless you do get it but absolute statements are exactly the opposite of what was intended.
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China has to be careful as the current Japan administration is adamant to live their own glory path, the timing could be a bit unfortunate for Obama. In politics there is always a subtle meaning to any event. The current low between Japan and China is to be expected as some historical issue/'wounds' so call are still seems to be not properly addressed.
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