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[xiabonan]

I find it dumb how CCP is trying to "control" the reincarnation of future Dalai Lama. Of course the purpose is a political move of legitimacy and less about caring the cultural tradition, but still it sounds way too stupid. No matter whether you believe in reincarnation or not, it's stupid to trying to get interfere in someone's cultures and traditions like that.

Maybe you should read about the Golden Urn.

It has been for a few hundred years that the Central Government in Beijing has interfered or directly controlled the reincarnation process.

 

[solarz]

Dalai is going to Wutai? better keep the Shaolin monks away from him

+1 for the 鹿鼎记reference. I was just re-re-re-reading it a few weeks ago.

I find it dumb how CCP is trying to "control" the reincarnation of future Dalai Lama. Of course the purpose is a political move of legitimacy and less about caring the cultural tradition, but still it sounds way too stupid. No matter whether you believe in reincarnation or not, it's stupid to trying to get interfere in someone's cultures and traditions like that.

The entire Chinese sovereignty over Tibet is derived through the control of the selection of the Tibetan living buddhas. The Golden Urn was created by the Qianlong Emperor to cement Qing control over Tibet.

 

[Blackstone]

For whatever it's worth, Chinese Communist Party's propaganda of the week is "The China-US Relationship Is Basically Good." Looks like the apparatchik is going on a charm offensive on multiple fronts again, right before the APEC summit. Nice timing. How long will it last?

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A few days ago, I was in Washington, DC for a conference. On the sidelines of the conference, I met some American friends. We had an interesting discussion about China-US relations. It seems to me that a debate is going on in the United States on that subject. There are mainly two different viewpoints in the debate. The first camp believes that the China-US relationship is going through a rocky course and has dropped to a “low point”, with many tough issues surfacing. The second maintains that the overall China-US relationship is good, notwithstanding the present difficulties. I share the second viewpoint for the following reasons:

First, the foundation of the China-US relationship remains strong. Let me quote President Xi Jinping’s speech at the opening of the sixth round of China-US Strategic and Economic Dialogue on July 9th:

“In the past 35 years since the establishment of diplomatic ties, relations between China and the US on the whole have moved forward and made historic progress, although there have been ups and downs. There are now over 90 mechanisms for dialogue, and last year, the bilateral trade volume exceeded $520 billion, bilateral investment accounted for over $100 billion. There are over 41 pairs of friendly provinces or states from both sides, and 202 sister cities. People-to-people exchanges exceeded 4 million every year. China-U.S. cooperation not only benefits our two peoples, but also promotes peace, stability and prosperity in the Asia-Pacific region and the world as a whole.”

Both in China and the United States, there are people complaining about the lack of strategic trust between the two countries. They mentioned quite a few facts to illustrate their worries. No one can deny the facts. However, every coin has two sides. A comprehensive vision for the China-US relationship is very much in need. I went to the United States for the first time in 1971 to attend the UN General Assembly Session. At that time, the trade between China and the US was merely 5 million US dollars. Last year, it amounted to 520 billion US dollars. In the 1970s, 80s and even 90s, such a rapid growth in bilateral trade was beyond anybody’s imagination. If there had been no mutual strategic trust, how could this growth have been achieved? It would simply be inconceivable. I strongly believe that mutual strategic trust can be achieved and strengthened through practical projects of cooperation. It thus calls for the two sides to make more efforts to increase our cooperation in all fields.

Second, President Xi Jinping and President Obama have reached an important consensus on the new model of a major country relationship. The two leaders held an informal summit in Sunnylands, California, in June, 2013. They agreed to build a new model of major country relationship. They were determined not to let the bilateral relationship slip into a Thucydides trap. This summit had a historic significance. Never in history had an established power and a rising power made such an agreement. The two leaders mean what they say and have decided to steer the China-US relationship towards a new model of major country relations, for the benefit of the two countries and the rest of the world.

Third, we have a series of mechanisms through which we can talk to each other and manage our differences. I don’t deny the existence of many problems in the bilateral relationship. The China-US relationship is one of the most important bilateral relationships in the world. If we look around the world, no bilateral relationship is problem-free. There are problems when the relationship moves backward. There are problems when the relationship stays at a standstill. There are also problems when the relationship moves forward. I think that most problems have appeared along with the advance of the China-US relationship.

China and the United States are two quite different countries. We have different histories, traditions and cultures. We have different political and social systems. It is quite natural that we have problems. What matters is that we have a series of mechanisms to cope with those problems. President Xi Jinping and President Obama meet frequently. They call each other by telephone from time to time and they exchange letters. At a ministerial level, our two sides meet regularly. In addition to track I exchanges, track II is quite active and dynamic in our mutual consultations on issues concerning the relationship.

Ms. Susan Rice, the U.S. President’s National Security Advisor, came to China not long ago to prepare for the forthcoming visit of President Obama to China and his participation in the APEC Summit. She met President Xi Jinping, State Councilor Yang Jiechi and Foreign Minister Wang Yi. Her talks with Yang Jiechi lasted more than eight hours. Both sides were quite happy with that visit, because it enabled the two sides to enhance mutual understanding, coordinate policies on global issues and pave the way for the success of President Obama’s forthcoming visit to China.

A few weeks ago, I gave an interview to an Asahi Correspondent based in Beijing about the China-US relationship. He focused on the problems. I said there was no denying that there were problems in China-US relationship. What is more, one should not underestimate the problems. However, what determines the quality of a bilateral relationship are common interests. The common interests between China and US far outweigh the differences. In trying to properly manage our differences, through various mechanisms, summit meetings, strategic and economic dialogues, etc., the two sides are learning how best to deal with their differences, and consequently, our bilateral relationship is growing mature.

The US is the only superpower in the world today. China is the largest developing country and the second largest economy. A good, stable and robust China-US relationship is not only good news for the two countries, but also for the rest of the world.

 

[airsuperiority]

golden urn?
anyways i'm just genuinely confused. im not a proponent of free tibet or anything, and if the tibetans can work something out with CCP that will be the best.

 

[xiabonan]

golden urn?
anyways i'm just genuinely confused. im not a proponent of free tibet or anything, and if the tibetans can work something out with CCP that will be the best.

It's alright to be confused...it's complicated matter anyway.

 

[solarz]

golden urn?
anyways i'm just genuinely confused. im not a proponent of free tibet or anything, and if the tibetans can work something out with CCP that will be the best.

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The Golden Urn refers to a method introduced since the 18th century to select Tibetan lamas. In Tibet, on several occasions, children believed to be the reincarnations of the Dalai Lama or the Panchen Lama have been identified by a lottery method, in which names of competing candidates are written on folded slips of paper placed in a golden urn (thus having the name).

This method originated in a decree issued by the Chinese emperor Qianlong in 1792, and was used in the selection of the 10th, 11th, and 12th Dalai Lamas. After defeating the Gurkha invasion in 1792, Emperor Qianlong issued The 29-Article Royal Decree for Better Governing in Tibet, in which Article One ordered the new protocol for deciding the reincarnations of the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama.[1]

 

[Blackstone]

anyways i'm just genuinely confused. im not a proponent of free tibet or anything, and if the tibetans can work something out with CCP that will be the best.

It all comes down to elements in Tibet gunning for independence, unquestionably aided and abetted by Western and Indian governments/NGOs and their useful idiots in mass media and Hollywood. I strongly suspect organizations like the CIA, NSA, MI5, JIC, and other Western/Indian shadowy groups are/have creating/created instability in Tibet and Xinjiang to cause trouble for China.

Events in Tibet and Xinjiang will get worse before they get better.

 

[airsuperiority]

[video=youtube;ulvG687EAIU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulvG687EAIU[/video]


This girl was being raped but she refused to comply, which led to the death of the rapist 'cause his genitalia broke or something(talk about being such a loser you can't even have sex properly without killing yourself. oh and thank god he died. one less orc on this planet)

The Shenyang court then ruled the girl guilty of manslaughter for not complying with the ordeal which led to the rapist's death. She's been sentenced to 3 years of prison and her family to pay $88,000RMB( I suppose) in compensation to the rapist's family.

And her response was, "Do I need to spread my legs for you?"

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Seeing this seriously pisses me off. I hope Xi's anti-corruption campaign quickly land on these orcs too. You guys can try looking for the article online.

 

[solarz]

[video=youtube;ulvG687EAIU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulvG687EAIU[/video]

Some f-ed up sh!t.
This girl was being raped but she refused to comply, which led to the death of the rapist 'cause his genitalia broke or something(talk about being such a loser you can't even have sex properly without killing yourself. oh and thank god he died. one less orc on this planet)

The Shenyang court then ruled the girl guilty of manslaughter for not complying with the ordeal which led to the rapist's death. She's been sentenced to 3 years of prison and her family to pay $88,000RMB( I suppose) in compensation to the rapist's family.

And her response was, "Do I need to spread my legs for you?"

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Seeing this seriously pisses me off. I hope Xi's anti-corruption campaign quickly land on these orcs too. You guys can try looking for the article online.

China has some really f-ed up courts. You can get jailed for self-defense, and you can get sued for helping someone out.

Of course, the counter-point is that there's always more than one side to a story, and tales circulated on the internet often only present one viewpoint.

What the Chinese society needs is more education on legal matters. Court verdicts in high-profile cases need to be publicized so people can see the facts for themselves.

 

[airsuperiority]

Another article(both the rape one and this one I found on my friends' facebook):

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遼寧一時尚女子駕一輛寶馬路過一個自行車修理攤，刮倒了一輛待修的自行車。女子急停後下車，要求修車師傅賠償其損失，並對修車師傅百般辱罵。說是自行車刮了她的寶馬,剛開始，修車師傅據理力爭，說明是對方駕車撞倒自己區域內的東西，對方應承擔主要責任。

時尚女子哪肯罷休，於是上前推搡修車師傅。修車師傅揮手阻攔，碰巧把時尚女子衣服弄髒。出現此等變故，時尚女子更是不依不饒。便放言，車子的事情暫且不算，必須先拿3000 元出來賠自己衣服。事情發展到這時，有很多人圍觀，也曾有過路者出面調解。

修車師傅也忍氣吞聲的向時尚女子道歉，並且表示願意為她清洗衣服。可時尚女子並不領情，繼續辱罵修車師傅和上前調解的過路者，同時掏出了她的手機開始求援。此時此刻，她所做的是一個足以讓她悔恨終身的錯位決定。因為她的生命僅僅剩下不足一小時。時尚女子求援的正是她​​的父母，她們一家三口就住在對面的貴族社區。她的父親到現場後，並沒有對事情原委做任何的了解，便直接抄起了地上的自行車打氣筒朝修車師傅頭部猛砸數下。頓時，修車師傅頭部血如泉湧。

部分實在看不下去的圍觀者開始指責其父行為，並有幾個想上前勸架。她的父親竟揚言，如果有誰敢靠近就打誰。此時，其父繼續猛踢被他用打氣筒砸倒的修車師傅腹部，其母則站在一旁破口大罵那些為修車師傅說話的路人和圍觀者。

時尚女子則一直坐在寶馬車裡，得意洋洋的看著這場鬧劇的上演。

幾分鐘過後，時尚女子父母打累了，罵累了。其父對修車師傅說：“一刻鐘之內，老子要是看不到3000塊錢，以後你TMD就別在這裡混了，你這條賤命值幾個錢，做了你，省得老子看了你......”

修車師傅掙扎著從地上爬起來，吐了幾口血唾沫，艱難的說：“你等一下，我這就去拿”。然後步履蹣跚地向貴族社區對面的貧民區走去。此時此刻，四名當事者的心境迥乎不同，但是都已經走上了一條不歸路。

約十來分鐘，修車師傅返回了事發現場，來到時尚女子父親面前。其父冷笑一聲，便伸手跨步上前。

就在此時，修車師傅猛地抽出懷中的右手，手裡拿的並非是一沓鈔票，而是一把雪亮的西瓜刀，他以迅雷不及掩耳之勢刺向了對方的心臟，然後在同一部位又補了兩刀，其父沒有發出任何聲響便栽倒在地。

緊接著，修車師傅兩三步跨到其母跟前，轉瞬之間連捅三刀。殺紅了眼的修車師傅並沒有放過寶馬車裡早已目瞪口呆的時尚女子，象拎小雞般地將她提出車外，連捅數刀後，扔於路邊。



幾分鐘後，警方和救護車均已趕到現場。警方不費吹灰之力便​​將兇手逮捕。而剛剛還活生生的三條人命，連急救的程序都沒有進行便撒手人寰。四條人命，僅僅起因於一次微不足道的事情。是兇手殘忍過度，還是逝者罪有應得，目擊者眾說紛紜。

記得有一個好友曾經跟我說過：“現在的中國，遍地的戾氣”。誠然，這遍地的戾氣也不知道是何時開始悄然而生的，而且一直在加劇。

這起發生在遼寧撫順的案件是一個慘劇，更是一個深刻的社會問題！逞一時之快，為了20分鐘罵人的快感，失去了寶貴的生命，值嗎？

In Liaoning(the name of the Chinese carrier too), a young woman driving her BMW bumped into some standing bikes at a bike repair shop. She got off, started accusing of the shop owner of scratching her car (so she twisted the facts the other way around), and demanded compensation. The shop owner at first tried to argue it's her who did it, but eventually just gave in and apologized and tried to plea. Somehow he accidentally smudged his hands on the girl's clothing and she got even more mad and then demanded even more compensation. She then called for backup and then her parents showed up. The mother started blaming the shop owner while the dad got very physical and violent. He took a gas canister and smashed it on the shop owner's head and started beating him up. The crowd who had gathered tried to defuse the situation or accuse back at the family, but they not only ignored the crowd, but the mother started yelling back at them. Meanwhile the girl had went back into her BMW and sat in there enjoying the show. After a while of verbal and physical abuse, the dad finally stopped and told the shop owner to pay up now or never to set his foot to work here ever again. It's implied of course that this family is very rich and have powerful connections. (The article also mentioned across the street is the wealthy people area). The many finally got up and told them to wait as he go fetch the money. They waited and eventually he returned. The dad smiled coldly and reached his hand out to wait for the shop owner, but instead the man pulled out a machete that he was hiding on his right and thrust the blade right into the dad's heart. He stabbed him 3 times then the dad crumbled to the ground. The shop owner then went after the mother and stabbed her 3 times too, before finally going after the girl. He went to the BMW, pulled the girl out, and stabbed her numerous times. Eventually the cops showed up and arrested him, although the family had been pronounced dead.
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Personally, I'm kinda happy to hear these scums have been killed. People like these are detestable, and probably the likes of them they are some corrupted 'holes who had been bullying the underprivileged and the non-wealthy for quite some time. The daughter is obviously a spoiled b'tch, while the parents are even worse. Most commentators are happy these scums are wiped out and even sympathized with the shop owner, who's obviously been pushed beyond the edge. Objectively speaking though, neither parties did the right thing.

These scums who turn the table on others for something they did wrong are quite prevalent in China(not saying the majority, but stating there are sizable population). They wronged others and instead accused others, which is particularly despicable. There are some cases in HK (where they held up an airplane for hours or demanded monetary compensation for the mildest of things)(and some where they attacked ground staffs at the HK international airport, and another where one attempted to slap a HK customs(border officer) but quickly tackled), (infamous MTR fight) another recent one in Shenzhen (a drunkard went to a hospital, cut the queue, demanding to be treated instantly and started smashing medical equipment when refused the request, then demanded compensation). Wherever they are, these people are despicable scums and they probably think by bullying others until the victims give in, they can win. At this incident this family lost it all(deservingly so), but does it always take such an extreme outcome to resolve such a scenario? Standing up for oneself is right, but in a society where power and privilege, combined with the lessened collective effort to stand up for the bullied for fear of getting into something not their own, is it still possible?