Chinese Engine Development

Jingle Bells

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It's not unreasonable to describe the potential uses of WS-15 as being applicable to "medium weight" and "heavy weight" fighters both.

That does not mean a medium weight fighter using WS-15 is under development.
In my opinion, this is more like a Chinese language thing. I think what it meant is that this engine is for heavy and medium weight 4th generation fighter jets, but it does NOT mean that there is necessarily a current project for a medium single engine 4th generation fighter.

This is kinda like how F135 is an advanced engine for 4th generation fighter jets, and could also be fitted on a heavy twin engine 4th generation jet. But this does NOT mean that there is a actual 4th generation heavy jet in development in the US, utilizing two F135 engines.
 

FriedButter

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China's WS-15 turbofan engine undergoes tests, shows improved performance

The WS-15, China's next generation turbofan engine expected to be used on the J-20 stealth fighter jet to greatly improve its performance, has undergone several tests that saw the engine further improved and optimized, the state broadcaster recently reported.

After the large scale equipment of the WS-10, China's first independently developed high performance, high thrust turbofan engine with afterburner, on Chinese fighter jets including the J-10, the J-11 and the J-20 since 2016, the country's next generation turbofan engine, the WS-15, has undergone several tests, China Central Television (CCTV) reported on Sunday.

Developed for fifth-generation heavy and medium fighter jets, the WS-15 has a low bypass ratio and is capable of thrust vector control, CCTV said.

With the tests, all parameters of the WS-15 have been further improved and optimized, the CCTV reported, noting that the more powerful WS-15 is expected to replace the WS-10 for the J-20 in the future, so the J-20 will finally become its ultimate form.

A distinguishing characteristic of a next generation high thrust engine for combat aircraft is that it should have a thrust of between 15 to 18 tons, military expert Wang Mingliang said on CCTV.

When the J-20 gets the new engines, it will become a more powerful platform, thanks to boosted super-cruise capability and super-maneuverability, in addition to its already excellent stealth capability and situational awareness, the expert said.

China has already displayed a thrust vector control-capable engine in flight by a J-10 fighter jet at Airshow China 2018. So such technology will not be a problem for China, and the increase in the thrust-to-weight ratio and the reduction in fuel consumption has always been a goal in engine development, Wang Ya'nan, chief editor of Aerospace Knowledge magazine, told the Global Times.

The technology gap between China and leading countries like the US in terms of jet engine development had been significantly narrowed in recent years, said Wang Ya'nan.

The reason behind this surge is China's accumulation of technologies and theories over the past decade, the establishment of the Aero Engine Corporation of China, and the breakthrough in key materials like those for single crystal blades, said Wang Mingliang.

Besides the WS-15, the WS-20, China's next generation turbofan engine with a high bypass ratio, is believed to be undergoing tests on the Y-20 large transport aircraft, CCTV reported, citing a photo recently circulating on the internet.

China has been testing two new types of domestically developed engines for the Y-20, the aircraft's chief designer Tang Changhong said at the Airshow China 2021.

In addition to larger engines for fighter jets and transport planes, China is also developing smaller engines, which is a very practical move as such engines would support smaller aircraft such as drones and cruise missiles, said Wang Mingliang.

Looks like the CCTV WS-15 video a couple days ago now has an article on the globaltimes. Basically a rehash of what was already discussed previously.

The last sentence mentions smaller engine development for drones and cruise missiles

Developed for fifth-generation heavy and medium fighter jets, the WS-15 has a low bypass ratio and is capable of thrust vector control, CCTV said.
 

by78

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Experimenting with swivel nozzle.

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A press blurb from 2015 about an 'exploratory' VTOL project between AVIC Chengdu Engine Group and AVIC Aero Engine Research Institute. I'm not saying the quoted image shows this particular project in progress, but only that China has been putting some effort in this field for a while.

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Deino

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Comparing with the WS-10(A?) engine of J16 as per below photo, I think the size is just about right for WS-15.

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Me in confusion again o_O

I'm still confused on who's the "maker" of the WS-15: some say it is developed by the Shenyang Aeroengine Research Institute and manufactured by the Xi'an Aero-Engine Corporation and others say it is built at Shenyang Liming.

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ThatNiceType055

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Engine for UAVs
"Anhui Hangrui Co. has developed a 300kW UAV aero-engine. It adopts the dual boost system to achieve no power attenuation performance at an altitude of 6,000 meters, and the operating ceiling can reach 12,000 meters. The CH5 drone can achieve 120 hours of cruising with it."
This engine has been announced first in June 2021, it is a piston engine that uses heavy oil(also known as fuel oil, marine fuel, bunker, furnace oil, or gasoil) instead of gasoline or kerosene. 120hrs is quite impressive, and only possible with heavy oil engine.
 

ThatNiceType055

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Engine for UAVs
"Anhui Hangrui Co. has developed a 300kW UAV aero-engine. It adopts the dual boost system to achieve no power attenuation performance at an altitude of 6,000 meters, and the operating ceiling can reach 12,000 meters. The CH5 drone can achieve 120 hours of cruising with it."
Some offical specs on this engine by Hangrui:

“猛雕”是一款对置四缸重油发动机,100%自主开发,100%自主产权,100%国产化生产,既可应用于3-4吨的固定翼无人机、1.2-1.5吨的无人直升机领域,也可应用于高速舰船、高机动车辆等领域。
其具有以下特点:
● 高升限:采用二级增压,不衰减海拔6000m,升限海拔12000m;
● 高续航:重油压燃、缸内直喷,比油耗220g/kWh;
● 高负载能力:功率达300kW;
● 重量轻:干重298kg,功率重量比>1.0kW/kg;
● 体积小:0.7m×1.0m×0.8m,功率体积比>500kW/m³;
● 智能化:全权限数字化控制系统,实现发动机实时健康管理,并能够与飞控实时无缝对接。

"Mengdiao" is an opposed four-cylinder heavy oil engine, 100% independently developed, 100% independent property rights, and 100% domestically produced. It can be applied to 3-4 tons of fixed-wing UAVs, 1.2-1.5 tons In the field of unmanned helicopters, it can also be used in high-speed ships, high-powered vehicles and other fields.
It has the following characteristics:
● High ceiling: using two-stage booster, no attenuation is 6000m above sea level, and the ceiling is 12000m above sea level;
● High endurance: heavy oil compression ignition, in-cylinder direct injection, specific fuel consumption 220g/kWh;
● High load capacity: power up to 300kW;
● Light weight: dry weight 298kg, power to weight ratio > 1.0kW/kg;
● Small size: 0.7m×1.0m×0.8m, power volume ratio>500kW/m³;
●Intelligent: The full authority digital control system realizes the real-time health management of the engine, and can be seamlessly connected with the flight control in real time.
 

latenlazy

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Me in confusion again o_O

I'm still confused on who's the "maker" of the WS-15: some say it is developed by the Shenyang Aeroengine Research Institute and manufactured by the Xi'an Aero-Engine Corporation and others say it is built at Shenyang Liming.

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Everything should be under AECC now.
 
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