Chinese Engine Development

maya said:

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Hyperwarp said:

This is something I wanted ask you for sometime....

According to this -

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has a full augmentation of 125.06 kN (~12,800 kg?).

But for sometime it was speculated that the WS-10A has a full augmentation of 132 kN (~13,500 kg?).

Are there 2 version of this engine or simply the 132 kn value is inaccurate. I am taking the FWS-10 (125.06 kN) as the official value.

Any comments on that?

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sydneylaide said:

Official AVIC media reported that first two sets of full authority digital engine control (FADEC) for the new genration engines designed for Chinese Generation 5 jetfighters have been delivered by 10 Nov 2009.

It is the first Chinese engine designed to use FADEC from beginning and has progressed ahead of the aircraft, a first in Chinese engine manufacture history.

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Moscow, 1 December: The first shipment of D-30KP-2 aircraft engines
manufactured by the Saturn research and production association under a
contract between the Russian state weapons export monopoly,
Rosoboronexport, and China, has been commissioned to begin supplying
customers.

"An acceptance certificate for eight engines was signed at Saturn on
November 30. The engines will be shipped to China by the end of the
year," Saturn said in a statement on Tuesday.

"We hope that the successful work under the Chinese project will
promote new decisions on continuing our cooperation," the statement
quotes Saturn Commercial Director Sergey Popov as saying.

Saturn manufactured the first batch of the engines significantly ahead
of schedule, and China appreciated this, the statement says.

"Saturn plans to maintain this rate of production in its further work
under the contract. The company plans to complete the manufacturing,
commissioning, and shipment of another four batches of D-30KP-2
engines in 2011. The acceptance of the second, third, and fourth
batches are planned for February, May, and October 2010 respectively
and the fifth in early 2011," it said.

Saturn is supposed to ship 55 D-30KP-2 engines to China by 2012 under
the contract, which took effect in April 2009.

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近日，中航工业六O一所、中航工业六O六所两所共聚一堂，共商飞机与发动机联合研制之计。

两所共同隶属于中国航空工业集团公司，又同在沈阳市。近年来，按照中航工业总经理林左鸣振兴发动机的指示精神，两所领导深刻认识到航空发动机的地位和重要意义，因此，来往更加频繁，联系更加密切。
两所领导与相关部门领导就现役型号及后续发展型号的需求进行了充分交流，一致认为，要逐步建立飞机、发动机研制的互动机制，实现“抱团发展”。两所领导表示，要充分利用各自的资源优势，为“航空报国、强军富民”战略的实施做出更大贡献。两所在研发流程、技术创新、知识管理、党建、企业文化建设等方面相互进行介绍，旨在提高综合能力，实现共赢。

六O一所党委书记褚晓文指出，发动机是飞机不可分割的一部分，支持发动机事业的发展，为发动机提供服务和保障是六O一所的责任和义务。他表示，六O一所一定会全力支持发动机事业，为发动机的发展提供服务。六O六所所长刘廷毅感慨地说，通过交流，进一步了解到飞机研制的流程，从而对发动机的型号要求有了更加明确的认识。他对六O一所多年来对发动机事业的大力支持表示感谢，他希望，六O一所今后继续支持发动机事业，实现飞机、发动机联合发展，为航空工业做出更大贡献。

Recently, 6 O 1 institute, the 6 O 6 institute come together to jointly discuss the joint development of aircraft and engine solution.

Two co-affiliated China Aviation Industry Corporation, but also with the Shenyang City. In recent years, according to the China Aviation Industry Lin Zuo Ming, general manager of the revitalization of the engine's instructions, two leading to a profound understanding of the status of aircraft engines and importance, therefore, between more frequent, more closely linked.

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Curious George said:

Hey all, I've just discovered a

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and it said the following things concerning propulsion for a "6th generation fighter":

Propulsion: there are two programs.

Program 1: a conventional propulsion, using thrust-weight ratio of 12 to 15 between the turbofan engines, no afterburner: we can use Mach 1.5 ~ 1.8 supercruise; with afterburner: the maximum can reach Mach 2.4.

Program 2: using nuclear propulsion, using the nuclear heating-fuel rocket engines to accelerate the use of nuclear reactors, heat working fluid, jet speed can reach 5 to 10 km/second or so; or use of nuclear rocket engines, from nuclear power industry after the electric field to accelerate ions quality..

Both programs are using thrust-vectoring technology for aircraft maneuverability.​

Now, "Program 1" might be referring to the WS-15 or higher, but has anyone heard anything about "Program 2"? Could there be some truth to this guy's claims or do you think he's just talking out of his other end?

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challenge said:

during the 2006 airhow, it was reveal that aside from taishing and taishang,thewre are 5 other aero engine is under developed.

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