This one flame bait derailed the engine thread by at least two full pages ... well done.
Chinese Engine Development
- Thread starter jackbh
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If that's how you feel, show me the working WS-15/WS-18/WS-20 engine in mass production. Show me the completed CPU fabricated by 5nm process in commercial use. Then come back and talk. Until then all you have is a bunch of hot air on a message board. The American President Theodore Roosevelt has a famous saying, "Speak softly and carry a big stick." Unfortunately some well meaning Chinese nationalists seem to do the opposite.
The US landed on the moon in 1969. Where is China? If all goes well, the same mission in... 2035. 66 years behind. In some areas China is lagging as badly as the Qing dynasty.
If you have no results then you got nothing to talk about.
there isn't a single 5nm chip out there for commercial use at the moment. And what relevance does that have? Faster smartphone? Wow how strategic!
About the engine, it will come when it is ready. And then what? The US will probably still use the same material 30 years ago.
The US landed on the moon in 1969? Great. Do it again now, like this year or next year! oh wait! They can't. Bragging about stuffs you did in the past is like 80 years old man talking about how fast he was.
This xxx years behind is meaningless. The China didn't have the blackhawk so I guess she was 100 years behind and now she has the Z-20 which is superior to the blackhawk because it can operate in high altitude. And the US still uses the blackhawk.https://cntechpost.com/2020/07/28/chinese-company-develops-new-lithography-equipment.Does it mean the US is 50 years behind now?
And even then, what happens when China surpasses the US in all key technological fields? You will come back and lick out boots? Please don't. That's disgusting.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Where is America's quantum satellite? Where is its maglev? Hell, there's America's 5nm (or 7nm even) chip? Nobody claimed that China dominates every area of technology yet. The only thing more broken then your logic is your spine.
Did Teddy tell you to get on your knees and beg for better relationships with everybody? LOL Chinese nationalists have vaulted Chinese development faster than Roosevelt or any American president could ever imagine. If Teddy was alive, he'd take out his notebook and pen and ask the Chinese on what to do.
What did landing on the moon achieve for the US? It was a pet project and hasn't led to anything nor gone anywhere since. China was launching satellites and rockets into space since the Qing Dynasty? LOL Half of what you say is factually incorrect and the other half is cherry picked, combined into arguments that are made to be wrecked for your embarrassment.
Where is America's quantum satellite? Where is its maglev? Hell, there's America's 5nm (or 7nm even) chip? If you've got no results, then you got nothing to talk about, right?
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SB isn't bad for a Japanese nationalist; i.e, he has his misconceptions, but he's not one of the crazies who goes "Shinabaka" all the time. @SamuraiBlue , consider CDF, which is nationalist (I think there's a poster there, a German-Chinese with Bundeswehr experience, who wants to carpet nuke Japan), but less given to this ultra fanboyish behavior.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
This is the most stupid post I ever see US is developed economy with $40,000/gdp percapita China is developing country with $10000 gdp percapita Of course there is different priority
China defense budget is only 1/5 of US defense budget US has constant war in the last 40 years China didn't have any .
And you of course cherry pick the field where US has a lead But China too has lead over US when it come to missile, NEV like battery technology, Green energy, Transportation etc
Now come back to the gas turbine US has more than 40 years lead when it come to GT US was present at the birth of GT technology. China was hungry and destitute at that time with most of the country destroyed due to unending war So of course US lead But China did catch up in GT after WS 10 as one of the few countries that can produce Turbofan engine with T/W ratio of 8 And she is working om turbofan enginw with T/w ratio of 10 as it now only US has production ready Turbofan with that ration Russia is still experimenting So it is not so bad for latecomer.
US has a trhirving air transport industries for the last 80 years China didn't start having civilian airline until 1980's. It take enormous amount of money and time to develop Turbofan engine Here it is P&W take 30 years and 10 billion of dollars to develop the engine
Now about Moon landing US practically moved and transplant all of the german engineer with the operation paper clip. Together with huge NASA budget make possible to land man on the moon in 60's China didn't have that kind of money and also landing man on the moon is not priority
If I have to say it is complete waste spending that kind of money to bring rock from moon The same job can be done more efficiently by using robot and that is exactly what China did this december
I am not saying space technology is not important but it is not priority when half of Chinese population still live on $200 per month
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We know so little about what components R&D looks like for gas turbines in China that it’s hard to say what they are or aren’t doing. I think it’s safe to assume that there is still a ways to go for application, but frankly developing the materials is most of the journey. The applications portion is the easy part. It’s just a matter of testing and time.
I appreciate you leaving me off this one lol. Maybe I am not deserving though.
Referencing a different thread before posting a basic article on tier with TNI, spouting information that is anywhere near a decade old, here in the engine thread?
Consider this a warning for referencing a completely different thread and more importantly for inciting flame bait.
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And a warning to others as well -- further posts on this tangent will be deleted.