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Deino

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I mean, I'm searching the image history right now, so that's what google seems to be showing. Oh well. So many of these decoy images have popped up it gets confusing after a while.

I am of course not sure; can only read what I can find; this is supposed to be within 624 so it is in Sichuan
 

latenlazy

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I am of course not sure; can only read what I can find; this is supposed to be within 624 so it is in Sichuan
I remember at least one image of an engine test facility attributed to being Chinese turning out to be Russian. It probably wasn't this one, but this stuff has happened before. If anything, this sort of confusion emphasizes the importance of being rigorous about sources.
 

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I mean, I'm searching the image history right now, so that's what google seems to be showing. Oh well. So many of these decoy images have popped up it gets confusing after a while.


Indeed; we all should remember the alleged F101 during test-stand in full AB ... which in the end came out as a B-1-engine.
 

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For WS-15 the right thing is just wait another 5-8 years to see if news comes out.

Agreed ... and all reports assuming a soon to be installed WS-15 in either the Il-76LL or even (as some fan boys claim) in a J-20 are closer to wet-dreams than to reality. I'm sorry to say so, but the fact that they just tested a WS-10 variant in a J-20 for the first time that we should indeed lean back and wait for another few years.
 

latenlazy

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For WS-15 the right thing is just wait another 5-8 years to see if news comes out.
Or hope that someone with ties to AVIC's engine development arms feels generous and daring, and decides to feed us table scraps. Short of that, we'll probably only hear something from pupu if the WS-15 is either ready to be tested on the flying testbed or in a J-20. Just for reminder's sake, the reason we haven't heard much of anything about the WS-15 for years is in part because the guy who used to feed us most of the table scraps, maya, went incognito years ago. One hopes it's because he has been busy, rather than because he was invited to tea.
 

latenlazy

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Agreed ... and all reports assuming a soon to be installed WS-15 in either the Il-76LL or even (as some fan boys claim) in a J-20 are closer to wet-dreams than to reality. I'm sorry to say so, but the fact that they just tested a WS-10 variant in a J-20 for the first time that we should indeed lean back and wait for another few years.
Not necessarily. The WS-10B is a relatively mature engine. If they're testing it on the J-20 now we should be expecting production units with it soon enough (and by that I think maybe a range of 1 to 1.5 years). Even if the WS-15 materialized tomorrow, going from flying testbed to production prototype in a J-20 and then to full production might take at least another 3-5 years (I'd be leaning closer to 5, or longer), assuming everything goes smoothly. Even if the WS-15 production prototype were to materialize in flight testing tomorrow we're looking at a long gap between flight testing (of any sort) and production ramp up that the PLAAF needs to fill. That's why I don't think seeing the WS-10B in a J-20 precludes the WS-15 being close to flight testing.
 

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Or hope that someone with ties to AVIC's engine development arms feels generous and daring, and decides to feed us table scraps. Short of that, we'll probably only hear something from pupu if the WS-15 is either ready to be tested on the flying testbed or in a J-20. Just for reminder's sake, the reason we haven't heard much of anything about the WS-15 for years is in part because the guy who used to feed us most of the table scraps, maya, went incognito years ago. One hopes it's because he has been busy, rather than because he was invited to tea.
According to Aliasmaya's CJDBY record, he was last seen in December 2015. But his last post was 3 years ago back in 2012. So I'm not sure what happened to him. But he did claim that the WS-15 would be flight tested around 10 years after the high altitude core testing completion (which occurred back in 2008/09). He said that installation would probably occur before 2020 ... so we should at least begin have more WS-15 news in the near term. Now, mass production is a completely different issue ... but at least there haven't been *reported* issues with the WS-15 yet
 
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