Chinese Engine Development

vincent

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In order to be qualified as self sufficient in jet engine, China has to be self relying 75% of ALL of its military and civilian jets. China still far far away from that. Despite of its WS10A equipped planes, I would say 90% of all its planes , both military and civilian planes still have foreign imported engines.

From the current10% improve to 75% will take many more years.

Curious to know where you get your figure from? Source?
 

vincent

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Rough estimate.

Keep in mind, we are certain China has 0% in civilian jets. So whatever China has is in j11 series, and jh7a

What's the point of including civilian jets in your calculation? China produce almost 0 civilian jets

Since we are talking about engines, we should include engines on z9, z10, y8, y9, etc if we want to see how far China got
 

tidalwave

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What's the point of including civilian jets in your calculation? China produce almost 0 civilian jets

Since we are talking about engines, we should include engines on z9, z10, y8, y9, etc if we want to see how far China got

MA60, turboprop but using US source, (hasn't pass that hurdle yet) ARJ21, C919.
 

tidalwave

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Ya, exactly my point. Almost zero. MA60 probably use American engines because of FAA, not because domestic engines not good enough

yeah right, FAA for alot of the plane usage in those third world countries internally.

What turboprop engines China has besides license production?

My point is you can't call yourself self sufficient when you have nothing in civilian sector.

Russia is self sufficient because it makes everything from a to z for both military and civilian China is not. China needs another 20 yrs to catch up to that level
 
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tphuang

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Chinese companies use Western engines for airliners because domestic engines are not good enough for a various reasons. Please actually read up on modern aeroengine and the challenges of reaching the expected sfc. Aside from efficiency requirements, there are also safety and noise requirements that engine has to reach in order to be certified with FAA and EASA. If you just look at how much trouble the Russians have in developing a domestic alternative to GTF, it should show how difficult it is to crack this industry.
 
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