*rollseyes* Diplomacy is about candor and openness, not a veneer of etiquette and deference. It's perfectly fine for a SecDef to ask questions, just like its perfectly fine for Hu to deny or sidestep. Officials between China and the US ask questions like this all the time without* hard constraints imposed by the setting.
Chinese Engine Development
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janjak desalin
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says who?
plawolf
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I think Hu was puzzled why Gates would ask a question he should have known he was never going to get a real answer on.
I think sometimes, Chinese officials are not used to the frankness of Americans and think there are ulterior motives and hidden meanings, get confused when they can find none.
Pretty much. Stuff like this isn't new in the world of US-China diplomacy. Why a lot of US diplomats liked Wang Qishan. He knew what they expected in communication.
Anyone who's actually studied diplomacy.
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manqiangrexue
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This seems to be saying that that the WS-15 is only a ~142-153 kN engine?
Honestly ... we know these graphics also from some other lists similar to earlier -11 production lists and Taihang versions ... and I have to admit I take them with a huge grain of salt most of all due to versions mentioned that I've never heard before.
Deino
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