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Hendrik_2000

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I don't know what is the fuss over declining Yuan. It is normal due to tightening of credit in China Chinese economy is still robust according to IMF And Yuan is fairly value
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The Chinese yuan is 'fairly valued,' says IMF mission chief
Huileng Tan,CNBC Thu, Jul 26 8:10 PM PDT
The Chinese yuan is still "fairly valued" despite recent declines against the dollar, said an International Monetary Fund (IMF) official on Friday.

"The moves haven't been that big by the standards of other emerging markets. It only takes the currency back to where it was at the beginning of the year and on the average of last year," said James Daniel, the IMF mission chief for China

China's currency has been sliding since mid-June amid an escalating trade war between the United States and China, after bumping around at higher levels from February through May. On Friday, USD/CNY was trading around 6.8.

The recent moves in the Chinese yuan are what is to be expected from a flexible exchange rate, Daniel told CNBC's "The Rundown."

"Domestically in China, there's a bit of a slowdown, somewhat of a monetary easing ... [but] the American economy is doing well and there is a tightening bias in America so you'd expect to see this divergent monetary condition reflected in a somewhat weaker exchange rate in China," Daniel explains.

Daniel's comments came on the back of the IMF's annual review of the Chinese economy.

China's economy continues to perform strongly, the IMF said, with growth expected at 6.6 percent this year — slightly slower than last year's 6.9 percent.


The growth estimate was unchanged from the IMF's last forecast made in May. It had raised its estimate for China's 2018 growth in January after the economy unexpectedly accelerated last year.

While the IMF praised China's progress on reducing financial sector risks and in further opening its economy, it said credit growth was still unsustainably high as some aspects of the country's rebalancing had slowed.

"China is at an historic juncture. After decades of high-speed growth, the authorities are now focusing on high-quality growth," the report said.

The IMF added that China's headline inflation is expected to rise gradually to around 2.5 percent, while producer price inflation would moderate.

The U.S. is also closely watching the currency of its top trading partner.

On Thursday, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told CNBC he's "closely monitoring" the weakening in the Chinese currency.
 
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Economic Watch: Service industry steering China's firm growth
Xinhua| 2018-07-30 20:59:24
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As China shifts away from old growth drivers, the service industry is now a key growth engine that firmly steers the economy forward amid external uncertainties.

Despite economic complexity both at home and abroad, the steadily expanding service sector has significantly bolstered China's growth and reform progress so far this year, officials and economists said.

In the first half of this year, the service sector saw output grow 7.6 percent year on year, contributing 60.5 percent of the overall economic growth in this period, 23.8 percentage points higher than the contribution of the secondary industry, official data showed.

On back of the strong service sector increase, China's gross domestic product expanded 6.8 percent year on year in the first half of 2018, well above the government's annual growth target of around 6.5 percent.

"Now the largest sector in the national economy, the service industry has been a solid support and an important boost to economic growth," said Xu Jianyi, head of the service industry department of the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS).

Xu stressed the service sector's increasing role in investment and employment, citing data that 64.8 percent of the fixed-asset investment in the first half went into the service sector, 5.4 percentage points higher than a year ago and 32 percentage points higher than the secondary industry.

In the first six months, service enterprises employed 5.2 percent more people than the same period last year, outpacing employment growth in the secondary sector, according to the NBS.

The positive trend is in line with China's massive transformation toward quality development, which is to turn the Chinese economy, once heavily reliant on fixed-asset investment and exports, into a service and consumption-led growth pattern.

In 2017, the service industry accounted for 51.6 percent of the country's GDP and 44.9 percent of total employment.

"By shifting away from old growth drivers and moving up on the global industrial and value chain, China is seeing increasingly higher growth quality," said Wang Jun with China Center for International Economic Exchanges.

Apart from sustaining growth, emerging service industries like internet-related services are leading China's structural upgrade, contributing 55 percent of the service sector's growth in the first half year, 19 percentage points higher year on year, NBS data showed.

Meanwhile, fast-growing domestic demand for services has provided room for further expansion in domestic demand and improving people's livelihoods, according to Jiang Changyun, a researcher with Chinese Academy of Macroeconomic Research, a government think tank.

In the first half of this year, the income of catering industry rose nearly 10 percent year on year, while online retail sales increased by more than 30 percent.

Breakthroughs have also been made in promoting reform and opening up in the service industry, said Jiang.

China has taken steps to improve the development of trade in services, or the sale and delivery of intangible products, including gradually opening up the finance, education, culture, and medical treatment sectors.

The country has opened 120 industries related to service trade to foreign investors, surpassing the goal of 100 industries set when China joined the World Trade Organization nearly two decades ago.

Looking ahead, service business owners are showing booming optimism. In the second quarter, business confidence index for the service sector rose to 123.3, 4.2 percentage points up from a year ago.

As China continues its supply-side structural reform and opening up, Xu said he expects that the business environment will continue to improve, consumption potential will be further unleashed and the service sector will maintain a relatively fast development.
 

Hendrik_2000

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The western press has a field day with bad news coming from China like this scandal with vaccines
They invariable blame CCP.But government can only do so much. Greed and unbridled materialism cannot be legislated .Even harsh punishment is impotent Good bossiness ethic has to live in the people's conscientiousness and moral. Which again reflect badly on the loss of traditional Chinese value and righteousness during the chaos of 60 and 70's
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Parents’ Fears Are the Chinese Communist Party’s Biggest Nightmare
A huge vaccine scandal hits at Beijing's most vulnerable point: children's safety.
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A child receives a vaccination shot at a hospital in Huaibei in China's eastern Anhui province on July 26, 2018. (AFP/Getty Images)


The Chinese party-state seemed quick to respond this month after a major pharmaceutical company was found to have sold over 250,000 substandard vaccines for children. The revelations, based partly on a viral social media post that sparked a frenzy among millions of worried Chinese parents, were called “serious and appalling” by Communist Party Chairman Xi Jinping, who
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on unsavory practices in the industry. Premier Li Keqiang
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the company’s behavior had “crossed a moral line,” and a normally throttled press was permitted to cover the topic. The China Food and Drug Administration (CFDA) opened an investigation and the firm’s chairwoman, “vaccines queen” Gao Junfang, was
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along with 14 others.
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solarz

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The western press has a field day with bad news coming from China like this scandal with vaccines
They invariable blame CCP.But government can only do so much. Greed and unbridled materialism cannot be legislated .Even harsh punishment is impotent Good bossiness ethic has to live in the people's conscientiousness and moral. Which again reflect badly on the loss of traditional Chinese value and righteousness during the chaos of 60 and 70's
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That's silly. Recalls and scandals abound in the West as well.

What China needs is a more structured process for issuing recalls and a more experienced institution overseeing such matters.
 
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Economic Watch: China signals greater focus on economic stability
Xinhua| 2018-08-01 16:32:37
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A key meeting has signaled that China will put more focus on maintaining the stability of the economy in the second half of this year amid external uncertainties.

China will keep its economy on a stable and healthy development track with proactive fiscal policies and prudent monetary policies in the second half, according to a meeting of the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee on Tuesday.

With a robust growth of 6.8 percent for the Chinese economy in the first half, the policy tone set by the CPC meeting will make sure that the country achieves its annual growth target of around 6.5 percent, economists believe.

STABILITY: KEY THEME

China's economy maintained steady growth with good momentum in the first half. However, "the economy faces some new problems and challenges, and the external environment has changed notably," said a statement released after the meeting.

It said, "efforts should be made to keep employment, the financial sector, foreign trade, foreign and domestic investments, and expectations stable."

China's GDP growth has stayed within the range of 6.7 to 6.9 percent for 12 straight quarters. But a slight weakening was spotted in June in industrial output and investment, and worries have been on the rise that escalating trade tensions could bite into the economy in the future.

"The whole meeting sent a message that the country will move proactively to cope with changes. Stability will be the key policy tone and theme of the economic work in the second half," said Wang Jun, chief economist of the Zhongyuan Bank.

Policy makers have already announced a basket of pro-growth policies from targeted lending to tax breaks.

China's cabinet last week decided to roll out a 65-billion-yuan (nearly 10 billion U.S. dollars) tax cut to encourage businesses to spend more on R&D, on top of an initial goal of cutting taxes and fees by 1.1 trillion yuan this year.

Fiscal policy should play a bigger role in expanding domestic demand and structural adjustments, according to the CPC meeting. It also pledged to maintain control over the floodgates of monetary supply and keep liquidity at a reasonable and ample level.

REFORM: SOURCE OF VIGOR

While external pressure increases, the vitality of the market could be boosted by further domestic structural reform and opening up.

Supply-side structural reform should be pushed forward, according to the CPC meeting. Strengthening areas of weakness should be taken as an important task in the reform, it said.

Zhang Yansheng, the chief researcher with China Center for International Economic Exchanges, believes new investment demand should be formed in such "weak areas" as innovation, green development, and social welfare.

In reducing industrial capacity, another major front of the structural reform, "some deep-rooted problems should be solved, including disposing zombie firms and improving corporate efficiency," Wang said.

Li Zuojun, deputy director of the resources and environment policy institute of the Development Research Center of the State Council, highlighted reforms in areas including state-owned enterprises and land systems, which have both profound influence and quick effects.

Wang Hongju with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) called for more rapid implementation of opening up policies.

"Reforms in government services, property protection, market access, prices of production factors, and industrial policies will help China form new global competitiveness," he said.

SUPPORTIVE FINANCE, CURB ON PROPERTY

Policymakers aim to accomplish the dual-task of taming financial risks and promoting the sector to play a more significant role in bolstering the real economy, in particular, cash-hungry private and small businesses.

"China must better combine the task of forestalling and defusing financial risks with serving the real economy," according to the meeting.

Despite progress in risk control and deleveraging in the first half, the financing difficulties for private and small firms still lingered, and a reasonable liquidity level is needed, said Zeng Gang, a financial researcher with CASS.

Analysts believe more efforts are required to precisely channel the capital into weak areas and prevent it from turning into hot money for the home or equity markets.

Meanwhile, authorities showed firm resolve in regulating the property market. The CPC meeting said "rises in home prices should be firmly curbed," and that the establishment of a long-term mechanism to promote the stable and healthy development of the property market should be accelerated.

Housing prices in major Chinese cities were stable in June due to property controls. However, structural problems remained as several third- and fourth-tier cities have experienced price spikes since the year's start.

"The meeting demonstrated the central leadership's confidence and determination in resolving the problems in the property market," said Ni Pengfei with CASS.
 

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By Zhang Hui Source:Global Times Published: 2018/7/12 21:43:41

Family planning policy to undergo basic changes
China may reward families with a second child or more next year to arrest its dropping fertility rate, and the family planning policy will undergo fundamental changes, Chinese demographers said.

Their remarks came after reports that China's National Health Commission (NHC) is studying the possibility of rewarding families with more children.

The NHC has put together a group of experts to calculate the effect of incentives to improving fertility, with the study likely to be completed by the end of the year, news site thepaper.cn reported Wednesday.

Although not immediately confirmed by the NHC as of press time, demographers interviewed by the Global Times on Thursday said that they believe China may introduce incentives to families the next year, if not sooner, considering the drop in new births.

Demographer He Yafu told the Global Times that the NHC's study was said to only target families having a second child and not those with three or more children, and it's very likely that China will officially introduce the policy next year.

However, experts noted that even if China further relaxes the family planning policy, the result would be limited in the short term because of the younger generation's reluctance to have a second child.

Liang Jianzhang, an applied economics professor at Peking University, told the Global Times on Thursday that China needs to introduce stronger incentives to families to have more children.

"Even if China abandons its family planning policy next year, it won't help improve China's low fertility rate," Liang said, citing the high cost of raising children.

China fertility rate was 1.7 in 2016, and the China Statistical Yearbook 2017 issued by the National Bureau of Statistics failed to disclose the fertility rate.

"The fundamental policy is direct subsidy and lower taxes, and China should use at least 2 to 5 percent of its GDP to reward families so that their fertility may rise to a relatively better level," Liang said.

China's GDP was 80 trillion yuan ($11.9 trillion) in 2017, the Xinhua News Agency reported.

And 5 percent means each of the country's around 200 million children could get an average of 10,000 yuan a year, Liang explained.

Northeast China's Liaoning Province is the first province to introduce incentives to have two children.

The population development plan (2016-30) it issued last week said that the provincial government will improve policies on personal taxes, education, social welfare and housing to provide more incentives to a family of four in order to lighten the load of raising children.

Experts noted that Liaoning's policy is likely to be adopted across the country, but with even stronger incentives.


Newspaper headline: Bigger families to be rewarded

I also came across this thread from 2012. It's interesting to see the state of discussion then and what has happened since.
 

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In Poland similar policy helped to increase the fertility rate from 1.29 to 1.42.

The stable population needs 2.1 rate.
In Poland they give 150 $/month/child after the first.

It is very hard to recover the fertility rate.

In the US the 2008 depression decreased the fertility rate from 2.1 to 1.8, and it doesn't show signs of recovery.

The fertility rate is very sensitive for the average social / economical wellbeing of the population, in Russia from 2016 to 2017 it drop from 1.8 to 1.64 due to economic issues.

At the moment in China it is 1.57, simple money handout will increase it maybe to 1.65-1.7 based on the Polish experience., and that is way off from the required 2.1

To push it above to 2 the average level of living has to increase dramatically.
 

Hendrik_2000

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That's silly. Recalls and scandals abound in the West as well.

What China needs is a more structured process for issuing recalls and a more experienced institution overseeing such matters.

Well aside from occasional food poisoning due to salmonella break out in salad or other food, I haven't heard much about any major scandal. The last time it was Thalidomide in the 60's
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No China did a lot in streamlining the regulation policy of food and drug administration But this kind of scandal still happened. You wonder why I haven't yet heard any food scandal in Japan or Taiwan for that matter.

As I said legislation alone cannot prevent scandal. The culture of zero failure tolerant must be permeated thru the whole chain of bossiness structure from CEO down to inspector
 

taxiya

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Well aside from occasional food poisoning due to salmonella break out in salad or other food, I haven't heard much about any major scandal. The last time it was Thalidomide in the 60's
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No China did a lot in streamlining the regulation policy of food and drug administration But this kind of scandal still happened. You wonder why I haven't yet heard any food scandal in Japan or Taiwan for that matter.

As I said legislation alone cannot prevent scandal. The culture of zero failure tolerant must be permeated thru the whole chain of bossiness structure from CEO down to inspector
First of all, we should not run into a competition of who is worse.

That being said, maybe you should update yourself a little bit. Last time I heard of food scandals was in number of small and wealthy western European countries with reputation of being well organized and regulated. Just within the past 5 years, there was salad vegetables contaminated by excessive bacteria and horse meat pretending to be beef. The scare of horse meat was due to the fact that most of the horse meat are from dead racing horses that have high grade of hormone content in their blood for racing. These countries are the size of small provinces in China, you can increase the scale by 30 fold to get the picture.

If you have not heard anything from Taiwan, check these out
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Japan maybe doing better, who knows, but there is no point of continuing finding other's dirty under the carpet.
 
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