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nugroho

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antiterror13 said:
nope, R & D is an investment and sit on the balance sheet, so your statement is totally incorrect
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So, for you, who said I was totally incorrect, what is investment for private company mean?
For me investment in private company aimed to get profit, not to be buried in balance sheet.
Example : This year SMIC have had 14 nm tech, SMIC want to produce 14 nm in H1 19 ( the sooner the better ).
Another example : If Sinopec have a new tech that can dig shale gas more efficient, will she delay using it?
 
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antiterror13

Brigadier
nugroho said:
So, for you, who said I was totally incorrect, what is investment for private company mean?
For me investment in private company aimed to get profit, not to be buried in balance sheet.
Example : This year SMIC have had 14 nm tech, SMIC want to produce 14 nm in H1 19 ( the sooner the better ).
Another example : If Sinopec have a new tech that can dig shale gas more efficient, will she delay using it?
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you need to understand a bit of accounting principle, even high school student know this a bit. Investment or R & D are balance sheet items and move to Income statement slowly and are called depreciation or amortisation .. these (depreciation/amortization) have impact to the profit of the company ... and definitely not the Investment itself

Of course (I never arguing) that the purpose of investment or R & D to get more profit indirectly by making the company be more competitive .. it applies for both private and SOE

Sorry you are wrong again .... accept it or you may make wrong again ;)

Accepting a mistake is not a bad thing ... you learn more from a mistake
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

General
Mar 26, 2018
Klon said:
Problem or not, the fact is that the fertility rate is below replacement, leading to a long term aging and shrinking of the population. If China doesn't want a population decline, more babies are necessary.

It's also nowhere close to the "worst phase of the transition", as the working-age population has just peaked and will soon enter a decline and the old-age population is skyrocketing. You could say the transition is just starting.

Here's another easy prediction. Without a significant increase in the total fertility rate (number of children per woman), China's birth rate (births per 1000 people or just the number of children born) will fall over the next 15 years because of the changing population structure (and the sub-replacement fertility).
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and now I read
China records 17.6 mln newborns in 2017
Xinhua| 2018-07-15 11:21:46
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A total of 17.58 million new babies were born in Chinese hospitals in 2017, according to figures released by the National Health Commission.

About 51 percent of the newborns were not the first child in their families, said the commission.

In response to a rapidly aging population, China allowed married couples to have two children from 2016, ending its decades-long one-child policy.

The maternal mortality rate dropped to 19.6 per 100,000 births while the infant mortality rate decreased to 6.8 deaths per 1,000 live births in 2017.

China also offered free pre-pregnancy health examinations to 11.73 million people nationwide in 2017, in an effort to reduce birth defect risks.
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nugroho

Junior Member
antiterror13 said:
you need to understand a bit of accounting principle, even high school student know this a bit. Investment or R & D are balance sheet items and move to Income statement slowly and are called depreciation or amortisation .. these (depreciation/amortization) have impact to the profit of the company ... and definitely not the Investment itself

Of course (I never arguing) that the purpose of investment or R & D to get more profit indirectly by making the company be more competitive .. it applies for both private and SOE

Sorry you are wrong again .... accept it or you may make wrong again ;)

Accepting a mistake is not a bad thing ... you learn more from a mistake
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The first you said I am totally incorrect ( so everything i posted was wrong ), the latter you said " of course ( i never arguing ) ", I think you are confusing yourself,
This is my post:
"for private company, R&D must be able to be transformed to income as soon as possible, long term goal R&D only exist in SOE or government body.
To make China prosperous in long time need long term R&D"
do you not agree that China must do long term R&D?
or do you not agree with " for private company, R&D must be able to be transformed to income as soon as possible" ?
Please show me where i was wrong
 
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antiterror13

Brigadier
nugroho said:
The first you said I am totally incorrect ( so everything i posted was wrong ), the latter you said " of course ( i never arguing ) ", I think you are confusing yourself,
This is my post:
"for private company, R&D must be able to be transformed to income as soon as possible, long term goal R&D only exist in SOE or government body.
To make China prosperous in long time need long term R&D"
do you not agree that China must do long term R&D?
or do you not agree with " for private company, R&D must be able to be transformed to income as soon as possible" ?
Please show me where i was wrong
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so hard for you to understand what I wrote .... not a bad thing to learn from other members here :mad:

I am done arguing with you .. I don't want to waste my and everybody else time :(
 
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nugroho

Junior Member
antiterror13 said:
so hard for you to understand what I wrote .... not a bad thing to learn from other members here :mad:

I am done arguing with you .. I don't want to waste my and everybody else time :(
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Next time don't post " totally incorrect ": if yourself is incapable prove it .
It will backfire you.
Lesson for you, nice to be learn here than in real life.
Ok I stop arguing
 
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