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B.I.B.

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Was it a sex doll? I remember there was a lifelike robot demo, but I don't recall it having been advertised for that err role, or equipped with the relevant... faculties...

Is the one you referring to just a talking head?

The occasion I'm referring to happened when someone posted an article outlining a Japanese acceptance of sex dolls as a way of an explanation to explain Japan's falling birthrate.
It drew a response from somebody else posting an article about a guy who worked in the field of artificial intelligence in China marrying his robot girlfriend. While fairly basic, and come to think of it, sex was not specifically mentioned ,he would be working on including extra functions.
 

B.I.B.

Captain

Thanks

I asked my nerdy brother who contracts/works for a Canadian Software Company in Japan. and the only reply i got was

'Your question is too open ended'
'You have to make assumptions"

'I cant give you an answer because your question is actually asking how long is a piece of string'

'Based on the lack of specifics, brute force is the only way to go.'
 

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Is the one you referring to just a talking head?

The occasion I'm referring to happened when someone posted an article outlining a Japanese acceptance of sex dolls as a way of an explanation to explain Japan's falling birthrate.
It drew a response from somebody else posting an article about a guy who worked in the field of artificial intelligence in China marrying his robot girlfriend. While fairly basic, and come to think of it, sex was not specifically mentioned ,he would be working on including extra functions.

I read something more recently which was this article, which is what I thought of when you said "sex robot":
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I think what you're talking about is just a guy that happened to marry his human shaped robot. I don't think it was.... err... adequately equipped as a sex robot.
 
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China’s reform on central SOEs brings record growth 2017-09-28 19:22 GMT+8
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China's centrally-administrated state-owned enterprises (SOEs) reported the strongest-ever growth in revenue and profit for the period between January and August thanks to the government's reforms, the chief of the state assets watchdog said on Thursday.

"In the first eight months, China's central SOEs reported a 15.7-percent increase in business revenue and a 17.3-percent growth in total profits, both historical highs," said Xiao Yaqing, chairman of the state-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission.

Under the government's supply-side structural reform, central SOEs have also made considerable progress in excess capacity cuts and leverage control.

"From January to August, China's central SOEs beat government-set targets by reducing 16.14 million tons of steel capacity and 55.1 million tons of coal capacity," Xiao said.

The official also revealed that by the end of August, the average debt-to-asset ratio of China's central SOEs dropped to 66.5 percent, 0.2 percentage points lower than the beginning of this year.

China has reduced the number of central SOEs from 117 to 98, including finalizing a merger between two of the country's top bullet train makers, and the efforts made in the past five years are gradually paying off with increasing efficiency and competitiveness of SOEs.

By the end of 2016, the total assets of China's central SOEs reached 50.5 trillion yuan (about 7.62 trillion US dollars) - an 80-percent jump from the end of 2011.

Xiao stressed that the restructuring of central SOEs is decided by market needs and technology development instead of the number or size of central SOEs.

Mixed-ownership reform has also been carried out widely with more than two-thirds of central SOEs having introduced social capital to diversify equities, Xiao said.

The area of mixed-ownership reform will expand beyond the initial sectors of energy and telecommunications, Peng Huagang, spokesperson for the state assets watchdog said at the press conference, noting that a new round of mixed-ownership reform is under consideration and will be carried out soon.
 
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Beijing should cap population at 23 mln by 2020 and keep at this level, says city planning document issued by State Council
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Beijing's new urban master plan approved
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To ease the problems of the big city, the blueprint, for example, will restructure the layout of the city into a central city area, a sub-center, two axes, and 10 suburban areas.

Yao Dongmei, director and associate of the Office for Metropolitan Architecture (OMA), a Dutch architectural company, said the new plan is in line with the world trend in urban development.

"It’s similar to the urban development of metropolises such as Paris and Tokyo, highlighted by the development of sub-city centers that could ease the burden caused by increasing population,” she said.

The blueprint also appears to continue to curb the city’s growing population by keeping the city’s long-term residents under 23 million by 2020, compared with the current 21 million-plus residents.

The city plans to reduce the amount of rural and urban land available for construction while expanding its environmentally controlled area.

With the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei Province joint development strategy in mind, the new blueprint also requires a much bigger vision to accommodate regional interconnection.

Yao said the approval of the new plan is only the first step, adding that detailed plan would go as far as 2050.

She said a master plan is more like a bird’s eye view of the city's layout, which is far from enough for sustainable urban development.

What is more important are the detailed plans and careful management that can reach every single street, she stated.

The first urban blueprint was released in 1983 with a focus on population control. The current plan aims to improve the city’s layout and functions. Beijing’s urban development is changing from expanding to enhancing its overall structure. It is the first time that the capital city is promoting the concept of "less is more."
 
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Xinhua Insight: Decoding China's economic miracle
Xinhua| 2017-09-28 20:41:26
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China's economic miracle can be baffling for many westerners, as the country is often at odds with the traditional understanding of what socialism is, going against the grain of standard political and economic theory.

While many western countries continue to stagnate, China has grown and kept stable. This is due to the strong leadership of the Communist Party of China (CPC), which is markedly different from the western system where multiple parties hold office in turn, often bickering on their way to power.

Ahead of the 19th National Congress of the CPC, the west should attempt to decode the mystery of China's economic miracle as it can offer an insight to the future of China and the world.

A MODERN MARXIST PARTY

The west has long wondered how such an ancient civilization can modernize so quickly while under the leadership of a Marxist party. Some have mistakenly attributed such modernization to the success of neoliberalism.

Yuan Fangcheng, professor of the School of Politics and International Studies of Central China Normal University, believes China's success not only lies in its economic miracle, but also in political reasons.

Yuan believes strong CPC leadership and broad representation has guaranteed a stable political order and development environment.

Chen Shuguang, a professor with the Party School of the CPC Central Committee, agrees with this analysis, saying that one of the major advantages of the Chinese political system is its ability to formulate long-term development plans and implement them in an effective manner.

Chen notes that the CPC has maintained consistency in its commitment and policy-making while adapting to changing domestic and international conditions.

"The CPC effectively avoided short-term behaviors and vetocracy during its governance, thus ensuring consistency and stability of national policies and strategies," Chen said.

The late political scientist Samuel Huntington once said that for third-world countries the path of modernization was one full of disturbances and conflicts, and that political organizations seeking modernization were key to advancing and keeping stable the process of modernization.

The CPC is exactly such a modern political organization and serves as the first and foremost answer to the mysteries behind the China miracle.

HOW A SOCIALIST MARKET ECONOMY CAN REMAIN VITAL

Some in the West believe the existence of a socialist political system and a market economy is a paradox, which makes them confused by the success of the Chinese model.

But simply putting the two concepts against each other ignores the huge potential and hidden strength of such a course.

"A socialist system and the market economy are not incompatible by nature," Chen said.

Since the 1980s, China and other socialist countries have all taken reform initiatives but gone down different paths. The CPC has sought to combine the strengths of its political system with market principles.

The key to such success is a good balance between the roles of the government and the market.

A reform decision in 2013 said that it was China's aim for the market to play a "decisive" role in allocating resources. Analysts hailed this as a significant breakthrough.

By changing the role of the market from a basic to decisive one, China was following the principles of market economy, while giving the government a better role in macro-policy efficiency.

"The market is not omnipotent and appropriate intervention of the government is necessary," noted Yan Jirong, professor with the school of government at Peking University.

Sticking to a steady path and constantly innovating, the CPC has kept the Chinese economy on a sustainable track, with breakthroughs in supply-side structural reform and new growth momentum.

WHY A PROSPEROUS CHINA WILL NOT WESTERNIZE

Some traditional western political theories state that it is inevitable that China will pursue western democracy once it becomes well-off, eventually fully following western political systems.

However, Martin Jacques, visiting senior fellow with the London School of Economics and Political Science, in his book "When China Rules the World" said that China's rise to becoming a global power might not tread the same path as the
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and Britain.

Some westerners believe modern countries must be either western or westernized. However, China is very different from other modern countries.

Indeed, by resisting westernization China has its own logic, both historically speaking and today.

Since ancient times, China has always upheld the idea of an even distribution of wealth among all people, echoing socialist values. For this reason, Marxism, though coming from the west, accords with Chinese culture, is comfortably accepted by the Chinese and is continually being sinicized.

The CPC sees people, not capital, as the most important factor in society, and the Party always represents the interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people. These are the main reasons why the CPC is different from other parties, and why it will not be westernized.

Over the past 40 years, China's aggregate economic performance has surpassed Britain,
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, and over 700 million people have shaken off poverty -- a modern economic miracle.

The CPC has set 2020 as the year for China to become a moderately prosperous society (Xiaokang) in an all-round way.

Lessons of failure are still vivid for some countries that tried to embrace the western model. In their move toward westernization, they failed to take into account their national realities, often plunging their countries into chaos.

"We have rejected both the old and rigid closed-door policy and any attempt to abandon socialism and take an erroneous path," said an 18th CPC National Congress report. These words help the world understand the path China has taken.

China is not picking sides between east and west, rather, it is forging its own development path amidst a changing global landscape. This is in itself a contribution to the political development of mankind.

"Non- westernization reflects China's national confidence and its own logic," said Zheng Changzhong, an expert on Party building at Shanghai-based Fudan University.

HOW A RISING CHINA AFFECTS WORLD

At a time when a number of western countries are struggling with sluggish economies, social turbulence and populism, analysts worldwide have trained their eyes on the global impact of China's rise.

The Financial Times once described China's rise as the most important event of the era, saying the revival of a country taking up one-fifth of the world population would have far-reaching implications.

When Napoleon Bonaparte called China a sleeping lion two centuries ago, he said that when that lion awakened, "she will shake the world."

However, President
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has said the awakened China lion is a "peaceful, pleasant and civilized" creature, with no intention of ever threatening anybody.

Rather than shaking the world, China is bringing opportunities, increasingly engaging with other countries, and contributing to global peace and prosperity.

China is walking the talk. China that used to offer just products now offers global solutions. With its notion of a global community of shared future and its Belt and Road Initiative, it is looking to establish a more equitable and balanced world. China's rise is not just good for China, but good for the entire world.
 

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Chen Shuguang, a professor with the Party School of the CPC Central Committee, agrees with this analysis, saying that one of the major advantages of the Chinese political system is its ability to formulate long-term development plans and implement them in an effective manner.

Chen notes that the CPC has maintained consistency in its commitment and policy-making while adapting to changing domestic and international conditions.

"The CPC effectively avoided short-term behaviors and vetocracy during its governance, thus ensuring consistency and stability of national policies and strategies," Chen said.

The late political scientist Samuel Huntington once said that for third-world countries the path of modernization was one full of disturbances and conflicts, and that political organizations seeking modernization were key to advancing and keeping stable the process of modernization.

Exactly it take them 9 years of hard work with thousand of workers to finish this difficult line going thru mountainous terrain. It is the first phase of opening the western China.Today it is completed and open to public. With this line the travel from Chongqing to Lanzhou is shorten form 30 hr to only 10 hr. A proud day for Chinese nation. finally the vision of Sun Yat Zen is realized. this line is also important for OBOR as it connect Chongqing to Europe

Lanzhou-Chongqing railway to open to traffic on Sept. 29 (4)
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Photo taken on Sept. 19, 2017 shows a train entering Longnan station on Lanzhou-Chongqing railway, in northwest China's Gansu Province. Lanzhou-Chongqing railway, a major railway connecting Lanzhou City in northwestern province of Gansu with the southwestern metropolis Chongqing, will fully open to traffic on Sept. 29, 2017, according to a press conference held by Lanzhou Railway Bureau Thursday. The railway, which started construction in 2008, also runs through northwest China's Shaanxi Province and southwest China's Sichuan Province. It will play a crucial role in improving transportation efficiency and advance the development program for western China. (Xinhua/Liu Chan)

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Today is the national day of China. For many young Chinese the prosperity of today is taken for granted. It wasn't always so First come the brutal Japanese invasion then the bitter civil war, Mao GLF combined with the natural disaster, bring untold suffering, million have died and China lay in ruin .But like the legendary phoenix she rose from the ashes and into prosperity
This video is not about hatred but celebration of Human spirit and will. Forgive but not forget


 
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Economic Watch: New force behind China's shifting economic landscape
Xinhua| 2017-10-02 09:26:36
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Is there any connection between a jungle of seemingly discarded bikes crowding a suburban subway exit, and the smell of money in the heart of the financial market?

In China, there is.

Riding the tide of bike sharing, a new business model emerging in China, Changzhou Youon Public Bicycle System Co., Ltd. went public on the Shanghai Stock Exchange on Aug. 17, the first initial public offering by a company providing bike sharing services.

With its blue and yellow bikes ready for use with a simple scan of a QR code by a mobile phone, Youon is set to get traction on the stock market.

Its shares soared by the daily limit on the first trading day. The same happened for the following 10 trading days.

The success of Youon's IPO was an epitome of quiet but ubiquitous changes to China's economy brought by a new force of Internet-based, innovation-driven businesses.

Youon and its more prominent rivals, Mobike and ofo, have shaken up the transport industry. Whizzing down the street on colorful bicycles, rather than in a car, has become a new fad.

At the exit of Anheqiao North subway station in the remote northwestern corner of Beijing, a bicycle jungle forms in the morning travel peak and is whittled down in the evening as throngs of commuters leave the station and pedal back to their homes.

"Bike sharing is much cheaper than taking a taxi, and a good way of exercise," says Mr. Zhao, whose home is a five-minute ride from the subway station.

China's bike sharing market is expected to rake in 10.3 billion yuan (1.5 billion U.S. dollars) in revenue this year, a 736-percent increase from 1.2 billion yuan in 2016, according to a report from iiMedia Research.

It estimated the number of shared-bike users in China will hit 209 million this year, compared with 28 million last year.

It's not just transportation. New business models inspired by information technology and upgrading consumer demand have slipped into all sectors of the economy.

The rise of online shopping has forced brick-and-mortar stores to either close doors or focus on better services and customer experiences.

Mobile payment has made it possible to order food, pay credit card bills and manage stock accounts at anytime, anywhere, or buy a pancake at a roadside breakfast stall without having to carry a wallet.

The value of third-party e-payments in China has grown at an annual rate of more than 100 percent since 2015, offering consumers an alternative to bank payment channels at lower transaction costs, global rating agency Moody's said in a report earlier this year.

In the countryside, farmers are learning how to advertise and sell fruit through online channels such as Taobao or WeChat. In urban homes, a variety of applications on smart phones have boosted consumption of novel services including in-home massages and manicures.

A bigger slice of the nation's economic pie is now digital. The aggregate value of China's digital economy accounted for over 30 percent of
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last year, according to the China Academy of Information and Communications Technology (CAICT).

The wave of change is evident in the capital market, with ripples sent beyond the border.

The total market value of Chinese listed Internet firms soared 48.7 percent year on year to a record high of 7.24 trillion yuan (about 1.1 trillion U.S. dollars) in the second quarter, according to the CAICT.

The market value of those listed in the
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accounted for 57 percent of the total market capitalization. Worldwide, nine Chinese firms, including Aibaba and Tencent, ranked among the 30 largest Internet companies in market value, with their combined share exceeding 30 percent for the first time.

The new force is reshaping China's economic structure. The economy, once reliant on fixed-asset investment and exports, is increasingly fueled by services and consumption, and the Internet is speeding up this process.

Online retail sales surged 33.7 percent year on year in the first seven months of this year, with online sales of goods accounting for 13.8 percent of the country's overall retail sales of consumer goods, up 2.2 percentage points from a year earlier, according to data from the National Bureau of Statistics.

Thanks to the revolution of information technology and innovative business models, the cost of consumption is getting lower, which helps boost economic growth, said Lyu Wei with the Development Research Center of the State Council.

In the first half, final consumption contributed 63.4 percent of GDP growth, and will probably increase more in future.

In the long term, the development of e-payments and e-commerce will encourage China's economic rebalancing from investment toward consumption, according to Moody's.

Consumption is the first sector to benefit from the extensive application of Internet technology, because the market threshold in this sector is relatively low for newcomers, said Wu Hequan from the Chinese Academy of Engineering and president of the Internet Society of China.

"Eventually, the Internet is going to remake the traditional industrial sector," he said.

For example, big data could be used to analyze the preferences of car purchasers and guide production, millions of small manufacturers could upgrade their products by seeking help from professional designers through online platforms, while sensors and software could make the production process smarter.

Government regulation is catching up with the changing economic landscape. Chinese authorities have cut red tape and slashed taxes to support innovative businesses, while tightened oversight over some risky new sectors including Internet finance.

In June, Chinese Premier
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told a cabinet meeting that authorities should avoid simply applying traditional methodology on sharing economy and regulate it in a "tolerant while prudent" manner.

More needs to be done, as new business models and technology could bring new problems and demands, said Zhang Zhanbin, a researcher with Chinese Academy of Governance.

The regulatory framework remains fragmented, with too many agencies overseeing one sector, while the standards of regulation are not unified, he said.
 

delft

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Only if they're fraternal or if one was scarred in an accident LOL. It's not possible to differentiate between twins from a biological standpoint because they are the same exact person, twice. A genetic test can't differentiate so how could facial recognition software? Even trying to develop such a thing is futile; they'd end up with a software that calls you a fraud if you get a pimple on your face...
I well remember a pair of twins of about six years old some sixty years ago of which everyone asked: "how does your mother differentiate you from your brother" and they said: "by our faces".
 
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