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broadsword

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You'll have to be more specific, because I say both positive and negative things about the CCP and other PRC-related subjects. Keep in mind if people are arguing back and forth, the entire discussion could look like long series of arguments with little balance. But, the thread originated in one specific instance, and that's how it should be evaluated.

If your change is only recent, it will take a while for people to form a new opinion of you.
 

nugroho

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It's not simply about Sinopec, but the economic reforms overall. If Sinopec is an outlier, then I'd say Xi's reforms are doing well. However, CCP leaders readily admit "vested interests" (their words, not my) are resisting reforms, and things aren't going smoothly. It doesn't mean PRC's reform efforts have failed, not by a long shot, but it does mean there are roadblocks from powerful sources the reformers must overcome. That shouldn't be a controversial statement, since plenty of evidence support it, but some SDF posters can't stand anything negative said about the PRC, be they true or not. Those people are "fanbois."

Xi has staked his presidency on fighting corruption, enacting economic and security reforms, and instituting the Belt and Road Initiative, all packaged as "China Dream." It's incredibly ambitions, and if Xi and the CCP leaders reach their main objectives, then they'll transform China and change the world while doing it. The bad news is vested interests are fighting hard to resist reforms, but the good news is the world's most competent government is pushing for the reforms. My take is, on balance, they'll succeed, but it's an extremely tough road to hoe.

My dear Blackstone , is you that give us article about Sinopec to strengten your argument, and after your example is being " shot down " then you said " it is not simply about Sinopec."
If it is not about Sinopec, then don't give example about that.
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Equation

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Here you go-

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Here's an article that counters those lame drama queen articles that acts as if China sky is falling.

China's president has enacted a sweeping anti-corruption campaign that many say has dampened economic growth and taken down his political enemies. Meanwhile, progress has stalled on ambitious market-oriented reform plans announced in 2013.

"Xi Jinping has been confronted with a lot of resistance to these reforms," said Stephen Orlins, president of the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations. "What he wants to do at the 19th party congress is to get enough allies that these reforms can be put through."

China watchers say Beijing is increasingly focused on reducing China's high debt levels, stabilizing the hot property market and making state-owned enterprises more efficient.

Analysts expect more details when the National People's Congress kicks off March 5, and some changes in low-level positions could also come then. But the key leadership changes will happen at the fall Communist Party congress and the 2018 National People's Congress.

That said, a view is that other than strong leaders like Xi, government officials hold little sway on policy.

"I don't think the leadership transition is going to have a big effect on Chinese economic policy and reforms because most of the reforms were launched in the 18th Party Congress" in 2012, said Yao Yang, director, China Center for Economic Research at Peking University. Rather, he said, "The U.S-China relationships are going to have a lot of impact."

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You of all people should talk about fanbois? When it comes to the Communist Party of China, you typically "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil," with so little balance, it's almost nil. That's why I call you a PRC fanboi. However, if you show a reasonable amount of balance going forward, then I'll reconsider with new facts.

Do you just repeat the same rant and accusation all time whenever you have nothing legitimate to say? You haters only see China as all evil because it doesn't follow your lame religious institution values and god. Trust me I know how these mental midget thinks and behaves. I hope that you are NOT one of them but with the way you're reacting it seems to be so.
 

Blackstone

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My dear Blackstone , is you that give us article about Sinopec to strengten your argument, and after your example is being " shot down " then you said " it is not simply about Sinopec."
If it is not about Sinopec, then don't give example about that.
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Nugroho, I linked two articles on PRC reforms hitting roadblocks, because someone asked for source. You need to go back and read the entire thread and not cherry pick sections of it.
 

Blackstone

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Here's an article that counters those lame drama queen articles that acts as if China sky is falling.



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So what? It's both sides of the discussion, and I've always maintained there should be balance.

Do you just repeat the same rant and accusation all time whenever you have nothing legitimate to say? You haters only see China as all evil because it doesn't follow your lame religious institution values and god. Trust me I know how these mental midget thinks and behaves. I hope that you are NOT one of them but with the way you're reacting it seems to be so.
You severely lack balance on the PRC and the CCP. I stand by that claim. Further more, I say you lack the courage of your own convictions to accept the challenge I twice put to you before: allow impartial judgement of it.

My claim is, relatively speaking, I've demonstrated more balance on the PRC and the CCP than you. Have you the fortitude in your own convictions to accept my challenge? If you win, I'll stop posting for the rest of the year, but if I win, I only require you to stop posting for one single month. I've offered up a list of posters I think could be unbiased judges, and more than one of them are critical of some of my posts. Care to put your money where your big mouth is?
 

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Equation

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So what? It's both sides of the discussion, and I've always maintained there should be balance.


You severely lack balance on the PRC and the CCP. I stand by that claim. Further more, I say you lack the courage of your own convictions to accept the challenge I twice put to you before: allow impartial judgement of it.

My claim is, relatively speaking, I've demonstrated more balance on the PRC and the CCP than you. Have you the fortitude in your own convictions to accept my challenge? If you win, I'll stop posting for the rest of the year, but if I win, I only require you to stop posting for one single month. I've offered up a list of posters I think could be unbiased judges, and more than one of them are critical of some of my posts. Care to put your money where your big mouth is?

Have you the fortitude and courage to rant against your favorite religious institution or Taiwan corrupt regime? NO?! I thought so. All talk and no walk just like the Donald. You lack the insight as to where the CPC and China are heading and that's why your arguments are based on prejudice and media spin which would have never pass as legit evidence in academia.
 

Blackstone

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You lack the insight as to where the CPC and China are heading and that's why your arguments are based on prejudice and media spin which would have never pass as legit evidence in academia.
There's a way to test your theory. So, I leave my offer of third party adjudication on which of us is more balanced on the PRC and CCP. All you need to do is take up the challenge. It is, however, interesting you've thus far turned me down not once, not twice, but thrice. Why is that? Because you believe in your heart you have a weak case perhaps.
 
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