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pissybits

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Here's a very good and insightful article on China's current socioeconomic environment. Covers a comprehensive range of topics.

Gazing into the future of American business in China


By Lillian Cunningham, Published: July 22 at 12:21 pm

The sixth-floor windows of the American Chamber of Commerce in China face onto Beijing’s boxy CCTV tower. I met Christian Murck, the chamber’s outgoing president, on a clear enough day to make out the tower’s outline from the conference room, though many days the smog can be thick enough to render it invisible from only a few blocks away. Air pollution, a growing and complex economy, a rapidly urbanizing population — these are all challenges that the Chinese leadership, from its seat in this capital city, confronts as it works through the first year of a new administration. They are also challenges the American business community tackles as its presence and investment increase in China.

Murck has lived in Beijing for 17 years, and has served as president of the Chamber of Commerce in China for the past three of those, overseeing a membership of roughly 1,500 American corporations doing business in the Chinese market. As he prepares to retire from the post, Murck reflects on the issues shaping U.S. business in China in this interview, which has been edited lightly for length and clarity.

Q. What’s your outlook on the Chinese economy today?

A. The Chinese economy is at a very significant turning point, where we see structural changes coming that will have a big impact on the business environment. We had a very successful period over the past 30 years or so of the development of the Chinese economy. But when we look at the next 30 years, it’s very clear that the economy is not going to develop along the same path or in the same way. Demand has to shift from external demand to internal demand, one way or another, if the economy is to continue growing.

Secondly, there has been a significant change in patterns of compensation. China is no longer a low-labor-cost environment. The increases in labor cost are now faster than economic growth. We don’t think that’s cyclical. We think that’s a long-term trend.

Third, there is significant demographic change, which affects more than just compensation. It also affects the availability of the workforce. The workforce is now shrinking every year. The number of retired people is dramatically increasing. That will be a huge fiscal challenge for the government going forward.

Are these shifts affecting the way Americans manage businesses in China?

Many companies routinely had 15-, 20-percent growth in revenue every single year. That hides a lot of problems. When you have your revenue growing that fast, what you’re really worried about is: How am I going to make the stuff fast enough? How am I going to transport it to clients? And where am I going to find the people and train the people? Managing growth had been the theme.

That’s going to downshift. If you look at the pharmaceutical sector, for example, they’re still seeing about 20-percent growth. But if you look at construction equipment, it’s negative. If you look at personal commuters, it’s sort of flat to single digits. So it’s become much more differentiated by sector, with a general shift down on the revenue side.

And then everyone is experiencing increase in cost. Land is more expensive, less available. Labor of course is going up quite dramatically. Commodities and raw materials also, depending on the sector, are going up. So all of a sudden, in the last 18 months, the focus of management has shifted from simply managing growth to managing costs and controlling costs as well. And we don’t think that’s going to change any time soon. We think that will be a continuing problem.

We’re now seeing people apply the same disciplines in this market that they apply in North America or Europe. People are trying to figure out how to do more with less. Generally speaking, large American multinationals are used to that sort of environment. We think we can work with it and continue to do well in this market, but it does mark a significant change.

If you’re in a capital-intensive industry like automobiles, you cannot be a global leader in the next several decades unless you have a major presence in China, because you will not have the volume required to amortize the huge cost of developing models.

Interestingly, Chinese companies face the same strategic problem. There are lots of Chinese companies that want to be global leaders — not just leaders in the Chinese market, where they are national champions and have some protection. And for them as well, you can’t be a global leader in many sectors without a strong presence in Europe and North America. So we’re seeing now a wave of Chinese investment. Last year, we saw $6 billion foreign investment from China into the United States, an all-time record. Twice that went into Europe — $12 billion. We’re going to see, I think, a continuing and deeper integration of China into the global economy.

How much confidence do you have in the new Chinese leadership’s ability to support some of these changes?

Our view of the new leadership is that they represent a very deep and broad consensus within Chinese society that these structural changes I’ve been talking about have to be adjusted to by accelerating the process of market reform — accelerating the process of shifting to market-based pricing in energy, accelerating financial liberalization, doing away with the financial repression we’ve had the past few years, improving capital allocation, reducing the role of government, reducing the administrative burden of government approval.

That doesn’t mean they’re actually going to do all that, of course. But I think the new leadership has deliberately tried to distance themselves from their predecessors, who talked about these issues quite a lot but accomplished very little in the last five years that they were in office.

The expectations are very high in the business community and the academic community that significant new programs will be announced in October at the third plenum. We were very happy that President Obama and President Xi were able to meet in California, because right now is the period when the Chinese government is trying to decide exactly what they are going to put before the public at the third plenum, which I hope will be some detail and some specifics behind the acceleration of market reform.

If it is not, it will also be very interesting. Because if they go through the third plenum and they don’t release anything, that will tell us they don’t have a consensus and they’re not going to move aggressively.

You mentioned the switch from managing growth to managing costs. What exactly are these U.S. companies doing to manage costs?

Usually not downsizing, because we’re still seeing growth. Usually they’re investing in capital equipment for automation. And they’re looking at business process, doing a certain amount of outsourcing. Internally also, they’re really looking hard at how to organize what they do. We’ve moved quite a bit beyond the stage where localization meant having Chinese employees in management positions. What we’re looking at now is becoming the Chinese competitor. That’s a theme of the Honeywell corporation in China, for example.

By that they mean being as quick to market as a Chinese company they compete with. Moving the new product approval process to China, not to head office. Moving a general counsel and other corporate functions to China, so that they can have a quick response time. It also means understanding the cost structure that companies operate under here and matching it. No longer trying to hit only a small slice of the upper end of the market, but going for the middle of a market, where you can hope to hit the biggest business. Part of that will be about location, part of that will be about how you organize your distribution and logistics, part of it is about how you recruit, train and pay people.

What are some of the challenges you see to attracting top U.S. talent to China? Are quality-of-life issues, like air pollution, keeping away some American executives whom multinational companies would like to draw here?

Given the change in the Chinese economy globally, some exposure to this market and this economy is now not something that holds you back in terms of a career, it often advances you. There are a large number of so-called ‘fast track’ employees in big companies who want to have a few years in China on their resumes. So there are positive reasons to come here.

There are also negative reasons to come here. One of them is air pollution, another is traffic, a third is censorship. So if your boss says we have an opening in China, you add up the pros and the cons and you talk to your spouse. An expat assignment succeeds or fails based on if the trailing spouse is happy. The air pollution is a negative — and it’s particularly a negative factor for people who have small children — but the market and the city still remain quite attractive.

When I first came to Beijing, they were still burning coal for a lot of heating and cooking purposes, and you could sort of taste the air in the wintertime. Your collar would be black when you came in. That went away for a period of years, but the pollution has since gotten more sophisticated based on emissions from coal-fired generating plants, as the demand for power has grown. We’ve also had a dramatic increase in the number of automobiles. So the result is what you see outside.

It has become a political issue, and it is not an easy issue to solve. The word from the government is that they’re now focusing on this in a very serious way, but it’s going to take a period of years before it begins to improve substantially.

If one of the keys to sustaining economic growth is to create more domestic demand, what is the government’s strategy?

The key strategy that the premier talks about and other people talk about is urbanization. A lot of companies, particularly those in consumer goods areas, have focused on that. We’re about 50 percent urban now, and the expectation is that the shift will probably accelerate a little bit and then stabilize when China is about 70 or 80 percent urban in its population.

So if you’re a company like Procter & Gamble, you don’t necessarily want to have the No. 1 product in the 10 largest cities in China. You want to have a presence in every city with over 1 million in population, and there are well over 100 such cities in China. So people are investing very heavily to build out logistics, to build out their psychical presence, to spend on marketing, especially online and social media — in all ways to develop connections with these new urban consumers.

The problem with this is we have here a household registration system, the “hukou” system. There are about 250 million current residents of cities who are migrant workers, so called, which means they don’t have an urban household registration — they have a rural one someplace — and they’re here in many cases without their children or spouses. We’ve got roughly 250 million people in this second-class citizen status today, and over the next 20 or 30 years we’re talking about moving another 250 or 300 million people into urban areas. Are we going to do that and keep them second-class citizens? Does that work? Probably not. You can see the political problem that begins to pose.

Successful urbanization, or inclusive urbanization as some people are now calling it in the Chinese government, must mean that Chinese citizens will have the right to move anywhere within China, get a job, bring their family, buy a house, put their kid in public school, get the local retirement benefits and everything else. However, no one knows how that’s going to be financed or how that’s exactly going to happen. My members are out there investing lots of money based on the urbanization thesis, because we see the economic potential. That’s an expression of confidence that the Chinese government will figure out a way to do it.

If you don’t do it, what happens then? This source of economic growth from new urban residents and new middle-class consumers suddenly goes away. If you don’t have the urbanization push, what’s going to keep the economy growing? On the other hand, if you do have urbanization pushing, how do you deal with merging these two very separate benefits schemes and managing everybody’s discontents and problems? It’s a huge and very interesting social problem, as well as a question of economic development. They have their work cut out for them.

It’s very interesting to me that foreign companies are putting a lot of money into the market on the theory that the new leadership will be able to do it. Check back in five years time and you can figure out whether it was wasted money.

Do you see any reversal of U.S. corporations’ investment in China?

No, I don’t. People are making adjustments, but I don’t see that.

Politically, what will China need to do to move ahead from where it is today to where it wants to go in the next several decades?

I think the government has to be more transparent, more institutionalized, more accountable in some sense to the people of China. Not necessarily to foreigners, but to the people of China. How they do that, I have no idea.

Certainly the U.S. system right now cannot be a very attractive model. We have a very divided electorate, and consequently our government is divided, and it’s not working very well. The United States by the way is, of all the major countries in the world, the oldest. We are operating under an 18th-century constitution. You often hear Chinese people talk about 5,000 years of Chinese culture, but China politically is a very new, raw, fresh country that is still inventing its institutions.

Does it have to get more democratic? Is that part of the change?

Well, what’s democratic? The United States is democratic. Okay, so is Italy. They’re different, though. So is Japan. Different again. Even Singapore is democratic. I think it’s very hard to define what democratic means. I prefer to think about rule of law, accountability, efficiencies, things like that. I think they have to do better on all those fronts and then exactly how that operates we’ll have to see.

Lillian Cunningham reported from Beijing through her participation in the East West Center’s Jefferson Fellowship.
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Looks like a welcome new development that's better for both people and the environment.

ou ning's bishan commune is a very interesting and thoughtful way of building a more sustainable economic framework in rural china. especially as china has cultural resources (local specialty products, traditions, etc) that are among the richest in the world. this is a very inspirational experiment that reverses the trend of single-direction development and preserves a very valuable part of chinese culture currently under siege.

i think "chenzhenghua" is designed to be a similar approach to the bishan commune from the central government, one that emphasizes a different mode of development which is inclusive of the beneficial market potentials of rural and urban life. (compared to dushihua)

however like the article pointed out, its stipulations are vague, and exactly how it will be put into place remains to be seen. hukou reform will also undoubtedly be a part of this if chengzhenhua is to be done right, but as noted, no one seems to have a clue in how to go about it.

i sincerely hope that the government will be accountable in their execution of this plan. hopefully "chenzhenghua" will not be an empty phrase to cover up further land-grabs and insider economic cheating perpetrated by connected individuals. because that model (as practiced for the last 20 some years) has clearly become unsustainable.

in my own view, i think china has huge potential for ou ning's bishan commune model. however before it can be done properly, there needs to be reform on land rights/land use policies with the introduction of better accountability mechanisms.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Where are those doom and gloom prophet? Their Schade Freude is a bit premature Seem like China is bottoming out. The latest economic data confirm 7.5% GDP is on track. Now that Chinese economy is so large it doesn't need double digit growth anymore

Considering that developed countries barely grow by single digit it is a good showing . Make you wonder why all those smart head( Michael Pattis , Chovanec, Roubini) instead of carping on China do navel gazing and look at their own economy. Forget about dispensing advice to China about the time they look after your own economy

New Data Suggest a Pause in China’s Slowdown
By BETTINA WASSENER
Published: August 9, 2013


HONG KONG — China’s economy faces major structural challenges in the coming years, but for now, the slowdown of the recent past may have bottomed out.
A new batch of economic data released Friday provided additional signs of buoyancy in an economy that has been weighed down by lackluster international demand. The Chinese government has also taken a tough-love approach, eager to wean the country from its reliance on exports and cheap credit.

Industrial output growth, which had been languishing around 9 percent for the past few months, jumped to 9.7 percent in July, the National Bureau of Statistics reported. The figure easily beat expectations for a rise of 9 percent, and helped support tentative signs that conditions in the country’s manufacturing sector were starting to show a moderate improvement.

Retail sales grew 13.2 percent from a year earlier, slightly less than the 13.5 percent that analysts polled by Reuters had expected, but in line with the performance of the past few months.


And investment in fixed assets, like buildings and machinery, in urban areas also was in line with expectations, growing 20.1 percent in the first seven months of this year.

Together with unexpectedly solid import and export data released Thursday, this week’s data appeared to show that the Chinese economy has stabilized, at least for now, and prompted some analysts to project a modest pickup in the coming months.

‘'The better-than-expected July activity data has largely dampened the concern of a hard landing of China’s economy,'’ economists at Australia and New Zealand Banking Group wrote in a note. It suggests that China’s economy ‘'is bottoming out.'’

China had been gradually losing steam for many months as it left behind the supercharged growth that turned it into the world’s second-largest economy, after the United States. Economic growth is likely to come in at about 7.5 percent this year, a far cry from the double-digit annual increases the country enjoyed for much of the past three decades.

Still, the data for July appeared to indicate that some of the recent drags on growth have eased.

Export demand from the West has improved as the United States and other economies have gained momentum. And domestically, the authorities in Beijing have clarified in recent weeks that while they are prepared to tolerate slower growth, they will also step in to prevent growth from slowing too rapidly.

Beijing has also announced a string of small-scale measures aimed at propping up activity — tax cuts for small businesses, for example, and measures aimed at speeding up railroad construction in inland and poor areas.

The improved policy clarity and support measures appear to have encouraged the increased activity, especially in the private sector, said Stephen Schwartz, chief economist for Asia at the Spanish bank BBVA in Hong Kong.

The latest reports on Friday “gives us more confidence in our forecast that growth will stabilize in the third quarter, and pick up gradually in the fourth quarter,” Mr. Schwartz said. However, like many other analysts, he said that the outlook for next year and beyond remained uncertain as China battles with the tough overhauls that are needed as the country tries to shift toward more efficient, balanced and sustainable growth.

Economic turmoil in the West and rising wages at home have undermined the export growth that formed the bedrock of China’s growth for decades. The fact that China’s population is aging and its labor force is shrinking means there is an urgent need to raise labor productivity and reduce the inefficiencies and misallocations of capital that have marred growth for years. And overcapacity, corruption and poor allocation of assets continue to affect growth.

Inflation figures released Friday underlined the challenges facing many industries. While consumer price inflation remained muted in July, at 2.7 percent, the price of goods as they leave the factory gate fell 2.3 percent from a year ago, continuing a decline that has lasted for more than a year.

Beijing has sought to rein in credit in a bid to tackle the flow of easy money that fueled growth in recent years, but that has generated worries about asset quality and potentially destabilizing defaults further down the line.

These challenges will weigh on China for years, prompting some analysts to warn — despite the apparent stabilization in July — that growth will slow to well below the current official target of 7.5 percent.

‘'While we believe the government could delay sub-7 percent growth into 2014, we do not believe it can be avoided,'’ Zhang Zhiwei, China economist at Nomura, wrote in a note, adding that he believed the government was likely to cut its growth target for next year to 7 percent.

‘'Leverage in the economy remains high, and many industries continue to face overcapacity problems,'’ Mr. Zhang said. ‘'The resolution of these problems will inevitably require a period of constructive destruction — expect some bankruptcy cases.'’
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
The good economic data keep coming and once again the peddler of doom and gloom are wrong . Only last month they compete with each other as to who can predict gloomier assessment of Chinese economy
.Well the data contradict those prediction. Now where is so called Li index that the western media love to quote. Those index is nothing but tea leaves reading. They are called technical analysis which is outdated. Nobody use it anymore. Since more and more economy are services base. China closes thousand of small and inefficient power plant Plus the modern plant the China built is more energy efficient . So it is poor predictor for Chinese economy and has no correlation with Chinese economy

By
WILLIAM KAZER

BEIJING—China showed more signs of economic resilience in July, suggesting that fears of a major deterioration could ease.

But economists were cautious about whether the fresh signs of strength, which have emerged after two quarters of sluggish economic growth this year, were pointing toward a more sustained rebound in the months ahead.

China's economy is showing signs of stabilizing, with July’s trade and inflation data painting a positive picture. The WSJ's Mariko Sanchanta and Tom Orlik discuss what to expect as China's leaders debate far-reaching reforms.


"This will boost confidence," said Li Wei, economist at Standard Chartered Bank. "But we still need to be cautious about growth over the longer term."

Growth in industrial output in July was far better than expected, coming in at 9.7% compared with a year ago, according to data released Friday. That followed a surprisingly weak 8.9% rise in June, and it was well above expectations of a 9% rise, according to a Wall Street Journal poll of economists. Some economists noted that the July industrial output data benefited from a lower base of comparison.

Meanwhile, consumer inflation remained tame in July despite a steeper rise in food prices, coming in at 2.7% in July over a year ago, unchanged from the rate in June, according to data from the National Bureau of Statistics released Friday.

The latest figures came on the heels of better-than-expected import and export data for July on Thursday and a stronger reading last week from China's official manufacturing Purchasing Managers' Index, which serves as a gauge of manufacturing activity.

China's economy expanded at a rate of 7.5% year-over-year in the second quarter after a reading of 7.7% in the first quarter and 7.9% in the final quarter last year.

Economists have already trimmed their forecasts for full-year growth, and some see the economy expanding at less than the government's target of 7.5% for the year.

Policy makers have pledged to maintain steady growth, but they also want to push ahead with broader, longer-term reforms that would boost the role of domestic consumption and reduce reliance on exports and investment. Those policy goals are widely seen as requiring some sacrificing of growth in the shorter term.

"There may be a temporary upturn in economic growth in the third quarter, but growth should slow again in the fourth quarter," said Citigroup economist Ding Shuang.

Mr. Ding also noted since May there has been a tightening of liquidity in the markets, and he said he doesn't expect to see the central bank moving to relax its policies anytime soon.

Other economists said they didn't see any signs of monetary easing yet, though some said such a move is needed.

"It seems that the central bank has adopted a 'wait and see' strategy, which continues to defy market expectations for a policy easing," said ANZ economists Li-Gang Liu and Hao Zhou in a note to clients. "We believe a policy rate cut is long overdue."

Beijing has been stepping up infrastructure spending this year, speeding up a raft of rail and subway projects, which are giving some support to economic growth.

The data released Friday revealed other sources of strength in the economy.

Investment in property development picked up pace in July, rising 21.3% to 747 billion yuan ($121 billion) from a year earlier, according to Wall Street Journal calculations based on official data. In the first seven months of this year, investment in property development rose 20.5%.

Construction starts continued to strengthen as more developers bought land in recent months. They rose 45% in July from a year earlier, up from 14% in June. In the first seven months, construction starts rose 8.4% from a year ago and fixed-asset investment was up 20%.

Meanwhile, Chinese excavator sales for July were up 9% year-on-year, rebounding from a slight decline of 0.8% year-on-year in June, according to researchers at Sun Hung Kai Financial.

Retail sales, however, were slightly weaker during the month, rising 13.2% from a year ago, down from 13.3% in June.

—Liyan Qi and Grace Zhu contributed to this article

Write to William Kazer at [email protected]
 
Europe - China Transport cost are coming down. New Silk Road


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Dalian: China’s first merchant ship to head to Europe via the Arctic Northeast waterways kicked off its maiden voyage yesterday at northeast port, Dalian.

The ship “Yong Sheng”, is a multi-purpose vessel owned by COSCO Shipping and is scheduled to arrive at Rotterdam port on 11 September.

The Arctic routes would greatly shorten the shipping distance between China and Europe/North America, further reduce fuel consumption and carbon emissions, improve the energy efficiency, and lower operational costs, COSCO said. [09/08/13]

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China to launch cargo train to Germany

16:57, July 19, 2013
ZHENGZHOU, July 17 (Xinhua) -- A cargo train from Zhengzhou in central China to Hamburg in Germany will be launched on Thursday to boost bilateral trade, Chinese railway authorities said Wednesday.

The container train will start its journey from Zhengzhou, capital of Henan Province and pass through Kazakhstan, Russia, White Russia, Poland before reaching Germany, said the Zhengzhou Railways Bureau.

The train will travel 10,214 km for 16 to 18 days. The service could shorten the length of time needed for cargo from Zhengzhou to Europe via sea by about 15 days.

The first train will carry 665 tonnes of goods such as tyres, shoes, clothes in 51 containers. The trade volume is worth 1.52 million U.S. dollars, according to customs authorities in Zhengzhou.

There will be six such trains to Hamburg this year, which are expected to realize more than 100 million U.S. dollars of exports and imports.

In 2014, the number of cargo trains from Zhengzhou to Hamburg will rise to 50, bringing trade volume of 1 billion U.S. dollars.
 

A.Man

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Beijing Plates Harder to Win Than Roulette Spur Loopholes: Cars

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Raising the money was once the big obstacle to auto ownership in China. Now it’s getting the right license plates.

To ease congestion in the biggest cities, officials are trying to cap the number of vehicles. In Beijing, residents have a better chance of winning at roulette than in the capital’s monthly lottery for new auto licenses. In Shanghai, buying a set of plates in the city’s auction system can mean spending more than on the car itself.

Enlarge image Beijing Plates Harder to Win Than Roulette Spur Loopholes
Beijing Plates Harder to Win Than Roulette Spur Loopholes Beijing Plates Harder to Win Than Roulette Spur Loopholes Tomohiro Ohsumi/Bloomberg
In Shanghai, which has been auctioning license plates since 1986, winning bids hit a record 90,000 yuan this year, enough to buy a new Volkswagen Santana sedan, according to car-pricing website Autohome.com.cn.

In Shanghai, which has been auctioning license plates since 1986, winning bids hit a record 90,000 yuan this year, enough to buy a new Volkswagen Santana sedan, according to car-pricing website Autohome.com.cn. Photographer: Tomohiro Ohsumi/Bloomberg
Small wonder then that resourceful motorists are finding ways around the rules. An entire industry has sprung up to help them, from services that register cars in other towns, to brokers of surplus licenses to thieves and counterfeiters of plates.

“We can’t do business without a car in such a huge city,” Beijing-based fruit importer Jason Chi said, explaining that after two years of failing at the lottery he registered his Buick Excelle for 100 yuan ($16) about an hour’s drive away in Langfang, Hebei province. Applying twice a year for permission - - with restrictions -- to drive in Beijing is a worthwhile hassle, he said. “What other choice do I have?”

China’s regional patchwork of vehicle registration rules mean loopholes big enough to drive 1.5 million cars through. That’s the estimated number of autos in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou that are registered elsewhere, according to JSC Automotive Consulting. The problem will only grow as more cities plan quotas in a country where car ownership is only about 1/14th of U.S. levels.

“Policy makers know they cannot kill the demand for cars,” said Lin Huaibin, a Shanghai-based analyst at auto researcher IHS Automotive. “If people really want to buy a vehicle, these policies won’t stand in their way.”

Quotas Coming
Annual sales in the world’s biggest auto market may reach 30 million by the end of the decade, from about 20 million this year, China Association of Automobile Manufacturers says. Shenzhen, Chengdu and Chongqing are among eight cities considering quotas to tackle congestion, the group says. As well as Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou, Guiyang, capital of Guizhou province, already has the curbs.

Beijing in 2010 announced a cap of 240,000 new vehicles a year, parceled out in monthly lotteries, after the city was voted as having the world’s most painful commute in a global poll by International Business Machines Corp. Fewer than one in 80 applicants were successful in the July draw, compared with the 37-to-1 odds they’d get on a single-number payout playing roulette in Las Vegas.

Even taking into account multiple family members taking part to stack the odds in a wannabe driver’s favor, the demand shows how for many Chinese urbanites the prospect of sitting out a tailback inside their own air-conditioned bubble is preferable to crammed and inadequate public transport.

Shanghai Auction
In Shanghai, which has been auctioning license plates since 1986, winning bids hit a record 90,000 yuan this year, enough to buy a new Volkswagen Santana sedan, according to car-pricing website Autohome.com.cn.

Jiang Ruming said he plans to drive about 900 kilometers (560 miles) to register his Volkswagen Touran in Yichun, Jiangxi province, where his parents own property.

“It’s not just about the money,” said Jiang, 35. “The auction system isn’t right as it’s the government restricting my own property.”

For 3,800 yuan, Smart Car Service in Shanghai will arrange an appointment and prepare documents for owners to register about 1,000 kilometers away in Hubei province. For 6,000 yuan, the agency will handle the entire process in nearby Anhui province, according to its website. Just hand over the keys.

Restricted Driving
There are drawbacks to out-of-town plates. Non-Shanghai registered cars are barred from rush-hour freeways. In Beijing, drivers must get temporary permits for either seven days or six months, and then can’t use inner city roads during peak hours.

Car owners are also in a race to outmaneuver regulators.

The southern city of Foshan asks for proof of residence to register there after neighboring Guangzhou last June said it would half the number of new licenses this year. Buyers flocked to Foshan, with as much as 50 percent of sales coming from Guangzhou residents, Liang Xianxing, a manager at a Shanghai Volkswagen Automotive Co. dealership, said in an interview in Foshan. Business returned to normal after the new rule, he said.

Beijing residents will soon no longer be allowed the six-month pass for out-of-town cars, according to the city’s traffic management bureau. That may tempt more drivers into illegal or gray areas.

Exit Strategy
A Land Rover owner was jailed for 15 days and fined in July 2011 for using forged Beijing plates, according to the traffic bureau’s website. Some dealerships rent out unneeded plates belonging to other individuals or companies, which technically are non-transferable.

Laura Zhang, a 28-year-old interior designer, found her own way to escape the hassle of car owning in Shanghai: move. She had to take a day off work last year to make the six-hour round trip to register her auto in neighboring Zhejiang province. Now she rides Hong Kong’s subway to work each day.

“Public transportation here is good,” said Zhang, who sold her Ford Focus in June. “You don’t really need a car.”

To contact Bloomberg News staff for this story: Alexandra Ho in Shanghai at [email protected]; Tian Ying in Beijing at [email protected]
 

pissybits

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this is the part of the article you should have highlighted:
Policy makers have pledged to maintain steady growth, but they also want to push ahead with broader, longer-term reforms that would boost the role of domestic consumption and reduce reliance on exports and investment. Those policy goals are widely seen as requiring some sacrificing of growth in the shorter term.

"There may be a temporary upturn in economic growth in the third quarter, but growth should slow again in the fourth quarter," said Citigroup economist Ding Shuang.

Mr. Ding also noted since May there has been a tightening of liquidity in the markets, and he said he doesn't expect to see the central bank moving to relax its policies anytime soon.

Other economists said they didn't see any signs of monetary easing yet, though some said such a move is needed.

"It seems that the central bank has adopted a 'wait and see' strategy, which continues to defy market expectations for a policy easing," said ANZ economists Li-Gang Liu and Hao Zhou in a note to clients. "We believe a policy rate cut is long overdue."

Beijing has been stepping up infrastructure spending this year, speeding up a raft of rail and subway projects, which are giving some support to economic growth.

The data released Friday revealed other sources of strength in the economy.

Investment in property development picked up pace in July, rising 21.3% to 747 billion yuan ($121 billion) from a year earlier, according to Wall Street Journal calculations based on official data. In the first seven months of this year, investment in property development rose 20.5%.

—Liyan Qi and Grace Zhu contributed to this article

Write to William Kazer at [email protected]

they are still reluctant to ease liquidity because they are unsure where the money will go given the prominence of privilaged insiders in the chinese economy at large.

additionally they don't want to make things volatile at this critical juncture and are trying to engineer a soft landing for infrastructure investment and the real estate sector. it is also sensible to take advantage of the momentary overcapacity (low costs) in construction equipment and related industries.

but such a move is problematic in the long run because it leads private investors (for when they do ease lending/liquidity) to want to keep bandwagoning real estate. thus they have a very difficult issue on their hands as to which exact sectors to transition the economy toward, not even mentioning the structural inefficiencies which present a significant obstacle.

it is more important now than any other time in the last 30 years that money is spent in the right places.

-this infographic shows the trend in investment efficiency over the past two decades and emphasizes the importance of effective fiscal management at this time.
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Hendrik_2000

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this is the part of the article you should have highlighted:

they are still reluctant to ease liquidity because they are unsure where the money will go given the prominence of privilaged insiders in the chinese economy at large.

additionally they don't want to make things volatile at this critical juncture and are trying to engineer a soft landing for infrastructure investment and the real estate sector. it is also sensible to take advantage of the momentary overcapacity (low costs) in construction equipment and related industries.

but such a move is problematic in the long run because it leads private investors (for when they do ease lending/liquidity) to want to keep bandwagoning real estate. thus they have a very difficult issue on their hands as to which exact sectors to transition the economy toward, not even mentioning the structural inefficiencies which present a significant obstacle.

it is more important now than any other time in the last 30 years that money is spent in the right places.

-this infographic shows the trend in investment efficiency over the past two decades and emphasizes the importance of effective fiscal management at this time.
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Trying to put metric on investment is like try to put meaning or correlation between price/earning ratio or price/asset ratio with Stock price performance.

It makes a nice chart but totally useless. Investment is multidimensional and trying to normalized it with GDP doesn't even captured the total value of investment,

I give you an example. Take the railway for a long time western critic carping on the utility of high speed railway. Using ticket sale revenue as barometer if that investment will make sense.,they come with the conclusion that it is waste of money.

But wait there is more to it than ticket sales. The land around the train station along the way suddenly becomes more valuable. city and business hub will be built around the station increasing economic activity

Now that people easily commute from one city to the other suddenly relocating factory to small village become viable.

Now that high speed railway become the primary mode of personal transportation.The old railway is now relieved able to carry more freight and again lowering the transportation cost, justifying move to small city.

More people can work and live next to their ancestor land relieving city of congestion and increase the family well fare with less social problem

So judging investment by simple metric is useless and give a distorted view of the investment benefit

Anyway this is an excellent article from council of foreign relation

China's economy slows but its global influence continues to rise

Joshua Kurlantzick
Aug 10, 2013

Over the past month, global financial markets have become terrified by the prospect of a Chinese economic slowdown.

In recent weeks, China's money markets have slowed to a near halt, China's stock markets suffered roller-coaster whiplash, and many western fund managers have reduced their China exposure.

Outside the country, pessimists returned to a familiar refrain: Chinese banks' debt loads signal the arrival of an event that doomsayers have been predicting for three decades - a meltdown of China's economy.

A severe slowdown would be catastrophic for China's global power, which is dependent on its high levels of growth, since a fast-growing China serves as a model to other developing nations, allows Beijing to amass vast quantities of US debt, and gives Beijing a far greater say in global institutions.

But although China's economy is slowing somewhat from its years of torrid growth, it is not going to crash: Beijing's government is actually anticipating a cooling down to about 7 per cent annual growth, which would be red hot for any other country. The Chinese economy, the second-largest on Earth, is not going to melt down any time soon, allowing Beijing to continue building up its global power.

Almost since it began reforming in the 1970s, China's economy has attracted naysayers. By focusing too much on export-driven growth, they argue, China has remained too dependent on foreign consumer markets. And China's opaque banking sector has made it hard for outsiders to estimate the total amount of non-performing loans in the country's four biggest banks.

At least since the Asian financial crisis of the late 1990s, sceptics have regularly predicted that China's problems would lead to an economic collapse, one that also would threaten the legitimacy of the government, since the Communist Party's strength comes from capable economic management, and since it does not have real elections to fall back on as another source of legitimacy.

But while China is slowing to its weakest growth in two decades, a real collapse is highly unlikely.

For one, China's state and private companies may be getting too easy credit from state banks, but that does not mean these firms are actually unproductive, zombies doing nothing - like some of the Thai and Indonesian firms caught up in the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

Chinese firms, nearly all of them state-owned, alone occupied 73 of the top 500 slots in Fortune's 2012 ranking of the largest companies in the world by sales revenue.


China's score has steadily risen on the Global Competitiveness Index, the World Economic Forum's ranking of nations' international economic competitiveness; China recently surpassed Japan as the country with the second largest amount of spending on research and development in the world.

In fact, China's forecast growth for this full year is far higher than that of the average developing country, which is projected at 3.3 per cent growth in 2013.

Even with this slowdown, China's urban middle classes, the type of people who have led revolts across the Middle East over the past three years, and who led the 1989 Tiananmen protests, are unlikely to turn against Beijing.

In the most comprehensive recent face-to-face survey of Chinese opinion about the government, political scientists Wenfang Tung, Nicholas Martini, and Michael S Lewis-Beck found that the average person's support for the government in Beijing was about 8 on a 10-point scale.


The three political scientists attributed this high level of support for the government to "political trust - a belief in the legitimacy of the government - [which] appears as the dominant reason for their broad support of the political system".

Since the Beijing government has actually responded to the slowdown with clear direction and economic reforms designed to slowly wean the economy off state spending, credit, and exports, it has won continued support from many Chinese urbanites. As a result, Beijing has ensured that China will remain increasingly influential in the world.

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pissybits

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Trying to put metric on investment is like try to put meaning or correlation between price/earning ratio or price/asset ratio with Stock price performance.

It makes a nice chart but totally useless. Investment is multidimensional and trying to normalized it with GDP doesn't even captured the total value of investment,

I give you an example. Take the railway for a long time western critic carping on the utility of high speed railway. Using ticket sale revenue as barometer if that investment will make sense.,they come with the conclusion that it is waste of money.

But wait there is more to it than ticket sales. The land around the train station along the way suddenly becomes more valuable. city and business hub will be built around the station increasing economic activity

Now that people easily commute from one city to the other suddenly relocating factory to small village become viable.

Now that high speed railway become the primary mode of personal transportation.The old railway is now relieved able to carry more freight and again lowering the transportation cost, justifying move to small city.

More people can work and live next to their ancestor land relieving city of congestion and increase the family well fare with less social problem

So judging investment by simple metric is useless and give a distorted view of the investment benefit

Anyway this is an excellent article from council of foreign relation

China's economy slows but its global influence continues to rise

Joshua Kurlantzick
Aug 10, 2013

Over the past month, global financial markets have become terrified by the prospect of a Chinese economic slowdown.

In recent weeks, China's money markets have slowed to a near halt, China's stock markets suffered roller-coaster whiplash, and many western fund managers have reduced their China exposure.

Outside the country, pessimists returned to a familiar refrain: Chinese banks' debt loads signal the arrival of an event that doomsayers have been predicting for three decades - a meltdown of China's economy.

A severe slowdown would be catastrophic for China's global power, which is dependent on its high levels of growth, since a fast-growing China serves as a model to other developing nations, allows Beijing to amass vast quantities of US debt, and gives Beijing a far greater say in global institutions.

But although China's economy is slowing somewhat from its years of torrid growth, it is not going to crash: Beijing's government is actually anticipating a cooling down to about 7 per cent annual growth, which would be red hot for any other country. The Chinese economy, the second-largest on Earth, is not going to melt down any time soon, allowing Beijing to continue building up its global power.

Almost since it began reforming in the 1970s, China's economy has attracted naysayers. By focusing too much on export-driven growth, they argue, China has remained too dependent on foreign consumer markets. And China's opaque banking sector has made it hard for outsiders to estimate the total amount of non-performing loans in the country's four biggest banks.

At least since the Asian financial crisis of the late 1990s, sceptics have regularly predicted that China's problems would lead to an economic collapse, one that also would threaten the legitimacy of the government, since the Communist Party's strength comes from capable economic management, and since it does not have real elections to fall back on as another source of legitimacy.

But while China is slowing to its weakest growth in two decades, a real collapse is highly unlikely.

For one, China's state and private companies may be getting too easy credit from state banks, but that does not mean these firms are actually unproductive, zombies doing nothing - like some of the Thai and Indonesian firms caught up in the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

Chinese firms, nearly all of them state-owned, alone occupied 73 of the top 500 slots in Fortune's 2012 ranking of the largest companies in the world by sales revenue.


China's score has steadily risen on the Global Competitiveness Index, the World Economic Forum's ranking of nations' international economic competitiveness; China recently surpassed Japan as the country with the second largest amount of spending on research and development in the world.

In fact, China's forecast growth for this full year is far higher than that of the average developing country, which is projected at 3.3 per cent growth in 2013.

Even with this slowdown, China's urban middle classes, the type of people who have led revolts across the Middle East over the past three years, and who led the 1989 Tiananmen protests, are unlikely to turn against Beijing.

In the most comprehensive recent face-to-face survey of Chinese opinion about the government, political scientists Wenfang Tung, Nicholas Martini, and Michael S Lewis-Beck found that the average person's support for the government in Beijing was about 8 on a 10-point scale.


The three political scientists attributed this high level of support for the government to "political trust - a belief in the legitimacy of the government - [which] appears as the dominant reason for their broad support of the political system".

Since the Beijing government has actually responded to the slowdown with clear direction and economic reforms designed to slowly wean the economy off state spending, credit, and exports, it has won continued support from many Chinese urbanites. As a result, Beijing has ensured that China will remain increasingly influential in the world.

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whatever man, i don't care what the "doomsayers" think so there's no need to defend against that position so vehemently. however i know that china is undoubtedly in need of some fiscal reform if they want to keep things going smoothly and keep raising the standard of living for chinese citizens in the years to come.

the general direction the chinese economy needs to head in is more or less obvious, but just how they're going to do it is still a big mystery. what i'm saying is that we should be aware of what the challenges are and where the obstacles lie rather than just being sycophants to the ccp, which is certainly not doing china any favours.

also, of course you have to try and put a gauge on returns to investment. how else can you know if you're spending your money in the right places? sure auditing for all the returns and externalities to investment is difficult, but it is no means impossible. if it were, no one would be able to run a business or make any investments at all.

your example with ticket sales to high speed rail investment might be valid in that particular instance, but it does not prove that investment returns cannot be valuated.

-first of all, you don't know what valuation schemes they used for the tealeafnation infographic, maybe they were very thorough in their procedures and considered market impacts like spillovers and utilized contingent valuation; you just don't know.
-secondly, the infographic does not take one investment metric, but examines several of them over time. a meta-analysis of all of them tends to give us a similar conclusion: that china's investment spending has reached a point where marginal returns to spending have equalized with marginal investment. is that so unreasonable? i'd say it's almost expected when we correlate it with data from every other source on china's current economic crossroads.

what all this amounts to is the same assertion i've been making all along:
china needs to find the right places to put its money, and it needs to figure out a efficient/responsible way to do it; it's especially important that they do it right this time because otherwise there will be some really unpleasant consequences ahead.
 
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