Chinese Economics Thread

horse

horse

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Overbom said:
That's some advanced economics
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575679610049941504
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When the degeneracy is being normalized, then, like, who knows?

Maybe the end is near?

Heck, maybe we have already reached the end, and gone beyond it. Just that we don't know about it, that it happened already.

Let's face it.

Everyone should answer this question for themselves.

"Do you expect the degeneracy displayed in the West today to get better or worst from this point forward?"

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horse

horse

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They blew up the pipeline.

Not just Nordstream-2, but they blew up Nordstream-1 as well.

There is no more cheap gas, for who knows how long for Europe.

Europe as a world leading economic power is going to go extinct for the next few years.

This is complete degeneracy.

Why would anyone do this?

Sure, we can rationalize some cynical CIA type of justification.

That is still degeneracy.

If someone is proud of this act of sabotage, then they should step forward and claim universal glory!
 
horse

horse

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horse said:
There is no more cheap gas, for who knows how long for Europe.

Europe as a world leading economic power is going to go extinct for the next few years.
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Maybe the Americans were so butt hurt about losing those airline orders from China that were given to Airbus, they finally snapped.

Ask yourself a question, and think about what you believe was happening.

That Chinese order for those airliners, all given to Airbus, where Boeing got nothing. Here is the question.

It is that a one-off kind of deal, just an exception and things will return to normal where the Chinese will still buy from Boeing and Airbus? Or was that the beginning of China not going to do business with the Americans if they can help it?

Was that Boeing deal, where it got nothing, a one-off deal, or the start of something else?

Someone blew up the pipeline. Someone sure thought it was the latter, at least they were taking no chances as both 1 & 2 were taken out.

Price of Airbus going up, like all European goods.

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BlackWindMnt

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horse said:
Maybe the Americans were so butt hurt about losing those airline orders from China that were given to Airbus, they finally snapped.

Ask yourself a question, and think about what you believe was happening.

That Chinese order for those airliners, all given to Airbus, where Boeing got nothing. Here is the question.

It is that a one-off kind of deal, just an exception and things will return to normal where the Chinese will still buy from Boeing and Airbus? Or was that the beginning of China not going to do business with the Americans if they can help it?

Was that Boeing deal, where it got nothing, a one-off deal, or the start of something else?

Someone blew up the pipeline. Someone sure thought it was the latter, at least they were taking no chances as both 1 & 2 were taken out.

Price of Airbus going up, like all European goods.

:confused::cool::oops:
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Lets hope Chinese government set up a good contract regarding prices of those airbus planes.
 
manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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DentonShaw125 said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1574435246141050881
China's consumption has fallen off a cliff
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That's a funny cliff where you fall upwards, eh? It's kinda like China collapsing upwards for the past 30 years LOL

Chart shows retail sales right now way higher than before COVID and this is with COVID zero. We all knew China's not growing as fast as it would have had COVID not happened (with all major Western economies having experienced multiple recessions); this chart is just showing that COVID zero hasn't stopped Chinese retail sales growth. Then, the guy says that unless we see China bolt back up again after COVD zero ends, which hasn't happened yet, China's economy won't return to being super fast growing. That's stating the obvious, like saying if you can't start running fast again after your fever cools down, then you're not running fast again.

Duh... such boring things... makes one... sleepy, doesn't it? LOL
 
56860

56860

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manqiangrexue said:
That's a funny cliff where you fall upwards, eh? It's kinda like China collapsing upwards, isn't it? LOL Chart shows retail sales right now way higher than before COVID and this is with COVID zero. We all knew China's not growing as fast as it would have had COVID not happened (with all major Western economies having experienced multiple recessions); this chart is just showing that COVID zero hasn't stopped Chinese retail sales growth. Then, the guys says that unless we see China bolt back up again after COVD zero ends, which hasn't happened yet, China's economy won't return to being super fast growing. That's stating the obvious.
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Let's not waste our saliva and derail 50 pages of discussion. Instead tag @siegecrossbow to deal with this blatantly obvious alt account, ignore, and move on.
 
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Minm

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Overbom said:
That's some advanced economics
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575679610049941504
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And next year the exchange rate is going to reverse again when the US goes into recession and they start printing money again.

Rather than looking at the gap in dollar terms, look at how many years China is behind the US. In 2021, China's GDP was 17.5 trillion, about the same as the US in 2014, so 7 years behind. In 2022, China's GDP was last projected to be 19.9 trilllion, about the same as the US in 2017, so only 5 years behind. The recent depreciation of the RMB against the dollar will only affect the fourth quarter GDP. So China's nominal GDP might be lower, but the gap in terms of years will most likely narrow
 
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