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Graphic shows that China's GDP change from 2006 to 2011,
delivered at the Fifth Session of the Eleventh National People's Congress on March 5, 2012.


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Graphic shows that China's urban and rural residents' income continue
to grow in 2011, delivered at the Fifth Session of the Eleventh National People's Congress on March 5, 2012


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Graphic shows that housing prices fall month on month in most Chinese
cities in 2011, delivered at the Fifth Session of the Eleventh National People's Congress on March 5, 2012.


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Graphic shows that China accelerated the optimization and upgrading of the
industrial structure in 2011, according to the figures delivered at the Fifth Session of
the Eleventh National People's Congress on March 5, 2012


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Graphic shows that medical insurance system covers the whole population
emerging in China in 2011,according to figures delivered at the Fifth Session of the
Eleventh National People's Congress on March 5, 2012.


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Graphic shows that China achieved solid progress in making education
more equitable in 2011, according to figures delivered at the Fifth Session of the
Eleventh National People's Congress on March 5, 2012.


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Graphic shows that China adjusted income distribution in 2011, according
to the figures from the Fifth Session of the Eleventh National People's Congress on March 5, 2012.


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China will develop the private sector of its economy by breaking up monopolies and relaxing restrictions on market access, Premier Wen Jiabao said on Monday at the opening of the parliament's annual session.

The government will research reforms in industries such as railways and electricity and encourage non-governmental investment in areas such as railways, public utilities, finance, energy, telecommunications, education and medical care, Wen said.

"We will promote reform of the railway and power industries," the premier said.

"We will thoroughly carry out strategic adjustment of the state sector, and improve the mechanism for increasing investment of state capital in some sectors while reducing it in others to ensure its sound flow," he said.

In 2011, some enterprises, especially small and micro businesses, faced increasing difficulties in their operations, Wen said.

Waning external demand due to the sluggish U.S. and European economies, a steep rise in production costs and difficulty securing financing have combined to create problems for many Chinese companies.
 

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, and all that. Little short-term joy in attempting a very necessary, very much long-overdue transition, if at all possible under current (or any) conditions and circumstances.
just like gym goers know they need some ripping after bulking up
Good point, paintgun.

And now, /flogging the hide off a highly decomposed and still very much dead horse...

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, by Bloomberg News, 6 March, 2012:

Premier Wen Jiabao yesterday unveiled a goal of about a 4 percent increase in the consumer price index, the same target as last year. By comparison, analysts at Bank of America Corp. forecast 3.5 percent and those at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. predict 3.1 percent. The gauge rose 5.4 percent in 2011.

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, by Bob Davis, The Wall Street Journal, 5 March 2012:

Premier Outlines Steps Away From Torrid Growth Path; Bad News for Commodity Exporters, an Opportunity for Others

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, by Cary Huang, South China Morning Post, 6 March, 2012:

Premier Wen Jiabao has cut this year's economic growth target to an eight-year low of 7.5 per cent, a move economists say will enable the government to focus on economic rebalancing and defusing price pressures amid global uncertainty.

"We aim to promote steady and relatively fast economic development, keep prices stable and guard against financial risks by keeping the total money and credit supply at an appropriate level, and taking a cautious and flexible approach," Wen said in his government work report, delivered to the National People's Congress yesterday on the first day of its annual session in Beijing.

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China Investment Corp, the nation's sovereign wealth fund, has received an injection of $30 billion from the government that will help it buy assets in debt-stricken Europe, said Wang Jianxi, deputy general manager and chief risk officer of CIC.

Late last year, "the company received a new round of funding of $30 billion from the State Administration of Foreign Exchange", as earlier funding had essentially been fully invested, said Wang, who is also a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference National Committee.

He commented on the sidelines of this year's session of the committee on Sunday.

Asked how the new money would be used, Wang said: "While financial assets are undervalued and there are limited financial risks in purchasing" in the heavily indebted European markets, CIC "in the short term, would devote itself to investing in the region, in an active way".

CIC was established in 2007 when the Ministry of Finance issued 1.55 trillion yuan ($246 billion at current exchange rates) in special yuan bonds that were swapped for $200 billion worth of foreign currency from SAFE.

In recent months, CIC said that it had fully invested this money and was negotiating with the government for additional financing.

Reuters reported late last year that CIC was to receive additional funding of up to $50 billion.

"If the returns on our investment projects remain sound, we will apply to get (continued) injections from the government", said Wang.

Experts said the new cash would give CIC the firepower to invest abroad, especially as Europe struggles with a debt crisis that has left many financial assets up for sale.

"When the economy is good, they (developed nations) prefer to attach some political tag to proposed Chinese investment. But when (the economy) is ailing, there are less such restrictions," Wang said.

But, "in the long term, or say, in the next five to ten years, CIC will mainly target emerging markets," he said. "We are committed to making long-term, non-speculative investments."

Lou Jiwei, the chairman of CIC, has said the company is keen to invest in updating the obsolete infrastructure of Western countries, especially the United Kingdom.

In January, CIC said it bought an 8.68-percent stake in UK-based utility Thames Water from a group of investors led by Australia's top investment bank Macquarie.

As for the Chinese government's promise to aid European nations, Wang said, CIC's new funds wouldn't be used to help other countries by buying their bonds.

Premier Wen Jiabao said recently that China is willing to help Europe to solve its debt problems.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has asked CIC and other "long-term investors" to buy European government debt.

But Lou recently told the annual meeting of China Economists 50 Forum that long-term investors like CIC find it difficult to invest in eurozone government bonds.

"Investment opportunities may lie in areas like infrastructure and industrial projects, and these projects can help economic recovery," he said.
 

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China's Growth to Maintain at 8%: Li Daokui

China's economic growth is still expected to be above 8% this year despite the lowered government target of 7.5%, Li Daokui, a prominent central bank researcher, said on the sidelines of the nation's annual parliamentary sessions.

China to Back Private Medical Institutions

China will increase spending on government-funded healthcare services by expanding coverage to more major diseases, Health Minister Chen Zhu said. He also encouraged the establishment of private hospitals and clinics.

Fixed Asset Investment Forecast to Slow

China's growth in fixed asset investment will slow to 16% this year compared with 23.8% in 2011, predicted Zhang Ping, director of the National Development and Reform Commission.

Clean Cars to Represent 1% of All Autos by 2015

Electric and hybrid vehicles are expected to make up 1% of all automobiles on the road in China by 2015, according to Ouyang Minggao, the head of a program on clean energy-powered vehicles.

China to Build 17 Airports in 2012

China plans to build 17 airports and revamp 36 this year but this is far from enough for the nation to have a reasonable number of airports, said Li Jiaxiang, director of the civil aviation regulator, signaling larger expansion plans in the years to come.

Tianjin Raises Minimum Wage by 13%
Tianjin, a provincial-level city near Beijing, raised the minimum wage from ¥1,160/month to ¥1,310/month, effective April 1, the local government said.

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China's government debt amounts to about 17.5 trillion yuan (2.78 trillion U.S. dollars), about 43 percent of the country's gross domestic product, Yang Kaisheng, president of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, said Tuesday.

The debt is composed of 10.7 trillion yuan (1.7 trillion dollars) of local government debt and 6.8 trillion yuan (1.07 trillion dollars) of central government debt, Yang said at a press conference on the sidelines of China's annual parliamentary session.
 
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If it was not for the risks of getting malaria and being robbed in the streets, Yu Peng's job in East Africa's Tanzania would be the envy of most young Chinese office workers.

The 27-year-old works as a manager on a highway project contracted to a large Chinese State-owned enterprise and receives a hardship allowance of $4,000 a month on top of his basic salary.

The place in which Yu and his colleagues live is in a seaside villa area and is one of the most affluent communities in the country where more than 90 percent of the population still live in rural areas.

However, a shortage of material goods and the fact that every journey is an adventure means that shopping is not on the to-do list for these highly paid workers.

"You can barely find a place to spend more than $100, unless you want to buy jewelry for friends at home," said Yu, adding that all necessary living expenses are covered by the company.

As a result, there is only one option left for Yu to deal with his salary - to send it home.

"Rather than enjoying a luxurious life in Africa, I prefer to repay my mortgage loan in Beijing," he said.

It's Yu and millions of other hard-working overseas Chinese around the world who have pushed the country to second place in the league of overseas workers who send their money to their home country. It is soon expected to hold the top position.

According to a report titled Migration and Development Brief by the World Bank in late 2011, officially recorded remittance flows to developing countries were estimated to have reached $351 billion in 2011, up 8 percent over 2010.

China received an estimated $57 billion in global remittances last year, 11.8 percent up from the previous year, and is closing in on India, the current top destination for sending money home. It received $58 billion in global remittances last year, 5.5 percent more than in 2010.


This is the first time since the global financial crisis that the remittance flows to all developing regions saw increases, said Hans Timmer, director of development prospects at the bank.

Following this rebound in 2011, the growth of remittance flows to developing countries is expected to continue at a rate of 7 to 8 percent annually to reach $441 billion by 2014, when the worldwide remittance flows, including those to high-income countries, is expected to exceed $590 billion the report said.

However, with the surging figure come higher costs, the World Bank said. The average cost of global remittances saw an increase of 5 percent year-on-year as of March 2011 to a total of $16 billion.

China was also among the regions with heavy duties on global remittance, with every $200 remittance from overseas facing an average cost of $11.57, a sum that includes transaction fees and currency conversion charges.

The cost is 53 percent higher than remitting the same amount of money to India, where it is only $7.56.

Gao Jianhua, director of China and Mongolia with Western Union Co, a leading global money transfer network, believes that China will continue playing a major role in the global remittance market with more Chinese enterprises acquiring overseas businesses.

"We should not forget that China's current runner-up place was achieved when many transactions were conducted via underground networks run by illegal banks, which are not included in the official data," Gao said.

According to statistics from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the number of China's outbound personnel, which is growing 30 percent a year on average, reached 75 million in 2011.

There are more than 4 million Chinese working overseas, among which, data from the Ministry of Commerce showed, a total of 812,000 workers are employed by Chinese companies working abroad as of the end of 2011.

It is widely accepted that there is also a group of people of a similar size, if not more, making a living without a permit or even legal identities, and their remittances can only be made via underground networks.

As in Tanzania, Yu said, Chinese overseas workers are employed by a wide range of companies from State-run firms to small private enterprises. There is therefore a large disparity in salaries.

"But even a lower level worker on our project, such as a tile layer, could earn a monthly salary of around 8,000 yuan ($1,270), which still outstrips the payment of a similar position in the domestic market by three to four times," he said.

To avoid high remittance charges, or simply not knowing how to send money home, many workers return to China with their money tied around their waists, Yu said.

Gao said there is great potential for China if this invisible market is explored.

Western Union will continue focusing on business in China and will deepen its cooperation with Chinese partners such as the Postal Savings Bank of China and the Agricultural Bank of China Ltd to provide more channels to facilitate the increasing need for overseas remittances, he said.

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China's announcement on Monday of lowering its GDP growth target to 7.5 percent this year has been met with mixed feelings around the world.

Some investors in the oil, copper and equities markets seem concerned, while most analysts said it would create space for China's structural reforms and put the economy on a sustainable track.

"It's understandable that some are concerned about slower growth in China, as the country's contribution to world economic growth has reached about 30 percent," said Zhang Liqun, a research fellow with the Development Research Center of the State Council, China's cabinet.

However, Zhang told Xinhua, the adjustment of the growth target is aimed at sustainable development, which would bring greater business opportunities in a broader sense.

China set its growth rate for the year at 7.5 percent, the slowest pace of expansion since 1990. This is also the first time for the government to lower its growth target after keeping it around 8 percent for seven consecutive years.

By setting a slightly lower growth rate, China hopes to achieve "higher-level, higher-quality development over a longer period of time," Premier Wen Jiabao said at the opening of the annual parliamentary session Monday.

Zhang said the move was taken in face of global turbulence and a pressing domestic demand for economic restructuring, noting that the world economy also needs re-balancing.

"Only through major re-balancing can the world witness a new round of growth and prosperity," he said.

Zhuang Jian, a senior economist with Asian Development Bank, predicts that, based on experiences from previous years, the actual growth rate of China's GDP this year could be higher than the figure projected.


Even the 7.5 percent growth target is still high compared with other countries, given that the major economic engines in the world, including the United States, the European Union and Japan, are either not functioning properly or recovering slowly, Zhuang said.

The Asian economic powerhouse, which has been striving to shift away from dependence on exports, has put more emphasis on domestic consumption as its engine of growth this year.

"The expansion of domestic consumption could mean more imports of consumer products, especially of the high-end category, benefiting the world," Zhang Liqun said.

The changes of the consumption pattern will also lead to higher investment in urban infrastructure, such as subways, underground passages and drainage equipment, which he said would bring more business opportunities for resources-rich countries.

He also said industrial optimization in China would provide a growing market for advanced technologies and equipment as the economy shifts to depend more on technological progress.

To boost consumption, Wen said China would spend more on education, expand medical insurance and pension coverage, and advance the reform of the fiscal and taxation systems, social programs and income distribution.

"It would be very likely that China would further raise the threshold for individual income tax and cut added-value tax for medium and small-sized enterprises," Zhuang Jian said.

Zhuang said China has been raising citizens' individual incomes in the past years, but it needs to go further, and that employees should have more say in wage negotiations.

"One good sign is that the growth rate of rural residents' income has surpassed that of urban residents," he said. "That will help bridge inequality."
 
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he view in most of the world is that China is indestructible. Shrugging off the crises multiplying elsewhere, China seems to surge from strength to strength, its spectacular growth marching on no matter what headwinds may come. It appears inevitable that China will overtake a U.S. mired in debt and division to become the world’s indispensable economy. Those businessmen and policymakers looking to the future believe China’s “state capitalism” may be a superior form of economic organization in dealing with the challenges of the modern global economy.

My answer to all of this is: think again.

I don’t doubt for a second that China will be a major economic superpower with an increasingly influential role in the global economy. In many respects, it already is a superpower. But that doesn’t mean the economy is free from problems, a good number of them created by the very statist system lauded by pundits in the U.S. and Europe. And in my opinion, if China doesn’t change course, and in a big way, the country will experience an economic crisis.

I’ve been thinking about China’s economic future, and the likelihood it will face some sort of terrible collapse, for some time, but I have until now been reluctant to come out with my views so strongly. The reason is that it is very difficult to tell what’s really going on in the Chinese economy. Data is sparse or unreliable. And China is in certain ways unique in economic terms — has history ever witnessed a giant of such massive proportions ascend so quickly in the global economy? Valid precedents are hard to find. Then there is the issue of timing. It is easy to say China will have a crisis; it is almost impossible to say when that might happen. Next month? Next year? Next decade? The fact is China could continue as it is for some time to come. So, in other words, when you make the type of prediction I just have, you have a good chance of getting it just plain wrong.

But the more time I spend in China, the more convinced I am that its current economic system is unsustainable. Yes, economists who specialize in China can give you all sorts of reasons why the country is supposedly different, and thus the regular rules of economics don’t necessarily apply. But one simple thing I always say about economics is that you can’t escape math. If the numbers don’t add up, it doesn’t matter much how big your economy might be or how fast it is growing or how heavy a role the state might play. And China has lots of numbers that just don’t add up.

A big part of the bad math is created by China’s state capitalism. China has adopted a form of the Asian development model, invented by Japan and followed, to varying degrees, by many rapid-growth countries around East Asia. The model, very generally speaking, functions like this: 1) capitalize on low wages to spark growth through exports and industrialize quickly with hefty amounts of investment, 2) guide the whole process with the hand of the state, 3) employ industrial policies and state-directed finance to progress into more and more advanced sectors. This system generates fantastic levels of economic growth for a while, but then eventually, it crashes. Japan had its meltdown beginning in 1990 (and it hasn’t escaped two decades later); South Korea, the country that copied Japan’s model most closely, experienced its crisis in 1997-98.

What happens? The model is based on what Alice Amsden, in her study of the Korean economy, called “getting prices wrong.” To spur on the high levels of investment necessary to generate rapid growth, the model depends on state-directed subsidization to make investing in certain industries or sectors more attractive and less risky than it otherwise would be. Cheap credit is made available for industry, or the state outright orders money to be invested in certain preferred projects. The exchange rate is controlled to encourage exporters. All sorts of subsidies, for energy, exports and so on, are dished out. Banks are not commercially oriented but act to a great degree as tools of government-development policy. All of these methods funnel money, private and public, into industrialization, creating the astronomical growth rates we see again and again in Asia.

The problem here is that prices can’t stay wrong indefinitely. There is a good reason why classical economists are always so focused on allowing markets to find the correct price level. In that way, markets send the proper signals to potential investors on where money should or should not go. If those price indicators are skewed, so is the direction of resources. The Asian model, by playing around with prices, eventually creates tremendous distortions, in which money is wasted and excess capacity is generated. Subsidized companies don’t have to generate returns in the same way as unsubsidized firms, and that leads them to make bad investment decisions to build factories and buildings that are unnecessary and unprofitable. As a result, loans go bad and banking sectors buckle. That’s exactly what happened in both Japan and Korea. Though their crises were tipped off in very different ways — the bursting of an asset bubble in Japan, an external shock in Korea — the reason both countries collapsed was the same: weak banks, indebted companies, silly investments.

China is indulging in all of the same excesses as Japan and Korea, and then some. The level of investment in China, at nearly 50% of GDP, is lofty even by Asian standards. The usual argument made in defense of such astronomical investment in fixed assets is that China is a large developing country that needs all of the buildings and roads it is constructing. Qu Hongbin, the very smart chief China economist at HSBC, made that very argument in a recent study:

There is a popular view in the market that China has overinvested and therefore can no longer rely on investment to sustain its growth. We disagree. China’s investment-to-GDP ratio is indeed very high (46%) … [But] China is only half way through the process of urbanisation and industrialisation. It still needs to invest more to cope with the rising demand for rail, hospitals and industrial plants. The recent infrastructure boom has boosted the country’s transport capacity, but China’s railway network is still shorter than that of the US in 1880 … In economic terms, we estimate that China’s capital stock per worker is only about 8% of that of the US and 15% of that of Korea. In other words, China’s capital accumulation is still far from reaching the stage of having diminishing returns; we believe the country needs to invest more, rather than less.

I completely agree. Yet the issue is not whether China needs more investment. The issue is whether China is getting the types of investment it requires. The fact that investment levels can be so high and yet the economy is so deficient in certain key aspects makes me think the answer is no. We can see that in the continued problem of excess capacity in China, in which companies go hog wild building too many factories in certain industries, often with borrowing from state banks. That has happened in steel and solar panels, for example. The country is investing hundreds of billions in high-speed railways even though ticket prices are beyond the reach of most Chinese, while many major Chinese cities don’t have subways.

A good part of this misdirected investment seems to be headed into the property sector. Real estate development has become the key driving force of Chinese economic growth. In theory, China’s very rapid urbanization makes such construction a necessity — but that depends on what is being built. In Wenzhou, a real estate agent recently offered free BMWs to anyone who bought a high-end apartment — a clear sign of overbuilding — while there is an obvious shortage of housing affordable for most Chinese. On either side of my Beijing apartment building are three big malls that hardly ever seem to see real shoppers. Rents for top-quality office space in Beijing are now pricier than in New York City — despite the fact that China’s capital is one big construction zone. Many of the buildings going up are of a quality unsuitable for major corporations.

Even worse, much of the investment in China is being financed with debt. The level of debt in the Chinese economy has been rising with frightening speed. Rating agency Fitch estimates bank credit in 2011 was equivalent to 185% of the country’s GDP — an increase of 56 percentage points in a mere three years. Though that surge has not yet had a significant negative impact on China’s banks, many analysts fret that banks will eventually experience a rise in nonperforming loans. In an indication of what is to come, the Financial Times reported recently that the government has ordered banks to roll over the $1.7 trillion of loans owed by local governments. If true, this tells us two key things: 1) these governments invested money raised from banks in projects that are not generating the returns necessary to pay them back and 2) the quality of loans on the banks’ books are more questionable than official statistics suggest. On top of that, the fact that local governments amassed so much debt in the first place shows a complete lack of rule of law in China’s financial sector. Technically, local governments aren’t permitted to borrow money at all. Meanwhile, as government entities run up loans they can’t pay, many small companies, especially private ones, are unable to raise sufficient funds and remain starved of capital.

So we can see the pieces of a crisis falling into place: excessive, misguided investment, including a giant property boom, propelled on by debt and the decisions of government bureaucrats. Sound familiar? A crisis, of course, is not inevitable — if China’s leadership takes action and reorients the direction of the economy. The positive thing is that at least some top policymakers understand the need to change. In policy pronouncement after policy pronouncement, the government pledges to reform. The problem is that China’s government is not taking its own advice. The economy needs to rebalance away from investment and exports to a more consumption-driven growth model with a primary focus on quality of growth, not high rates at any cost. That’s not happening, or not happening quickly enough. Yes, the Chinese consumer is gaining in global importance, but savings in China remains too high and consumption as a percentage of GDP still way too low. Steps that the government could take to spur on the needed rebalancing — reducing lofty taxes on many imported goods, for example — are nowhere to be found. More importantly, the government is doing nothing to set prices right. The currency remains firmly controlled, interest rates unreformed. So investors within China are still acting based on the wrong price signals.

Why won’t China’s policymakers pursue more fundamental reform? They are afraid that growth might slip. Sure, the latest five-year plan targets 7% annual GDP growth, but it seems to me that every time growth drops under double digits, the leadership goes into panic mode and revs up the economy again. GDP surged 8.9% in the fourth quarter of 2011, but that’s not fast enough for China’s leaders. They’ve already started loosening credit again — slathering yet more debt onto the economy.

When I bring up these issues with China watchers, I’m usually scolded — Beijing’s policy mandarins have it all figured out, I’m informed. It is true that China’s policymakers have done a superior job managing the rapidly changing economy in recent years. But as any stock investor knows all too well, past performance does not ensure future performance. Back in the 1970s and ’80s, analysts in the West considered Japan’s bureaucrats near supermen as well. Now the stodgy Japanese bureaucracy is considered one of the main impediments to an economic revival. Chinese bureaucrats today suffer from the same problem that led Japanese bureaucrats astray — they believe the economy can be managed by fiat. The tools of classical economics — getting prices right — are secondary. Why guide an economy with abstract measures like interest rates when you can just tell the banks what to do?

That attitude is what killed Japan’s economic miracle, and now I see China slipping toward the same fate. Japan could not escape the forces of basic mathematics. China can’t either, no matter how brilliant its policymakers might be. When would a meltdown happen? It is interesting to play with a bit of history. Both Japan and Korea suffered their crises roughly 35 years after the Asian development model was switched on — the early 1950s to ’89 in Japan, and 1962 to ’97 in Korea. That puts a China crisis at around 2014-15 or so. I’m not predicting a firm date here. What I am saying is that China is running out of time to fix the problems of its economy.
 

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If China goes, it certainly won't do so alone. But right now I suspect if anyone in Asia goes that way, it might be Japan doing so first. All those pensioners are starting to cash out their JGB's right now, and Mrs. Watanabe ain't got the cash to endlessly buy more JGB's (and thus extend QE to infinity).
 

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LOL...who is this stock trader, MICHAEL SCHUMAN, comparing China to Japan/ South Korea? It's like comparing apples to oranges, yes they're both fruit, but that doesn't mean they taste the same or make a pie from oranges. All stock market rise and fall, but he's twisting the writing as if China is about to fall due to it's economic fragility. I'm sorry but how many Enron, Lehman Brothers, Wordcom, Goldman Sach, Freddie Mae, and Freddie Mack corporations does China has that requires tax payers money for a bail out in TRILLIONS of Dollars?
 
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