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AndrewS

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Social media influencers help Chinese brands outfox foreign rivals
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Homegrown groups threaten likes of Coca-Cola and L’Oréal with savvy marketing and supply chain prowess

For western companies such as Coca-Cola, Maybelline and Nestlé, century-old brands have long offered a formidable advantage over local rivals in China.

But these established groups are increasingly being threatened by Chinese start-ups whose growth has been turbocharged by savvy social media marketing and optimised supply chains.

That shift was underscored during this month’s “618” ecommerce festival, China’s second-biggest annual shopping event, as local brand Babycare outpaced Procter & Gamble’s Pampers in terms of sales volumes, according to data released by internet group Alibaba.

It wasn’t a one-off: Genki Forest, a Chinese beverage company, overtook Coca-Cola and Pepsi in online sales during last year’s “Singles’ Day”, a multibillion-dollar extravaganza that is the country’s biggest shopping holiday.

A year earlier, Perfect Diary, a homegrown cosmetics brand, leapfrogged Maybelline and Estée Lauder to become number one on Singles’ Day, while in 2019, snack brand Three Squirrels overtook Nestlé.

“Foreign brands used to have an edge in the China market by representing a superior western lifestyle. But Chinese consumers are now more confident in ‘China style’,” said Albus Yu, investment manager at China Growth Capital, a venture-capital fund that has backed brands such as Maia Active, a Chinese challenger to Lululemon.

The pre-eminence of Chinese brands marks a turnround in a country where foreign products have historically been viewed as safer and of higher quality. It also poses a big challenge for multinationals that are increasingly looking to China for growth.


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It also chimes with China’s political priorities. President Xi Jinping has urged the country to focus on domestic demand for growth.

“This next decade is going to be the decade of Chinese brands,” said Elijah Whaley, vice-president of Asia-Pacific marketing at Launchmetrics, an analytics company. “The domestic brands will take a large share of China’s growing consumer market.”

In the first three quarters of 2020, domestic sales for Chinese fast-moving consumer goods brands increased 2 per cent while those of foreign brands shrank 6 per cent year-on-year, according to a report by Kantar Worldpanel and Bain.

Much of the recent success of local brands comes down to hefty investments in marketing, particularly on social media, analysts said. That has been fuelled by strong backing from venture capital.

“Marketing has made Chinese products want to grow slowly, and that’s how it works in other markets. But here everything is accelerated because there’s so much venture capital involved,” said Jenny Chen, co-founder of WalkTheChat, a cross-border marketing software agency.

Chinese brands have also been nimble in terms of developing their supply chains. Being close to manufacturing clusters in China, they have cultivated relationships with suppliers, allowing them to accelerate development of new products and trim costs. Often, these suppliers are the same ones through which premium foreign brands source goods.

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“The magic is in the small-batch ordering. You can produce thousands of items and see what sticks,” said Rui Ma, China tech analyst at TechBuzz.

Shanghai Chicmax, a cosmetics brand, went from designing to selling a face mask in three days. That process took a foreign shampoo brand three years, Skinny China’s Tanner pointed out.

Variety and speed matter because young Chinese consumers have eclectic tastes and a keener desire to chase trends than their western counterparts, analysts said. While GlaxoSmithKline had 400 products for European customers in one oral care category, it had 12,000 for China, Tanner added.

Young Chinese consumers also expect a sophisticated ecommerce experience. When buying a lipstick, they might first watch an influencer promote it on Douyin, China’s version of TikTok, and then switch to social media platform Xiaohongshu for reviews from professional beauty bloggers before finally buying it on Alibaba’s Taobao after consulting customer feedback and photos.

Some Chinese influencers have amassed huge fanbases, such as “Lipstick King” Li Jiaqi, who has 45m Douyin followers. An endorsement from Li can lead a product to sell out in minutes and he has previously criticised foreign brands such as Hermès and Chanel.

It was watching Li’s livestreams that Zhang Qiping, a 28-year old professional at a foreign company in China, discovered domestic brands Florasis and Perfect Diary.

“I thought the lipsticks looked great, and then I went on Xiaohongshu and found there were lots of people recommending them so I went ahead and bought them,” said Zhang, who had previously bought lipsticks from Dior and Yves Saint Laurent.

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But “micro-influencers”, who have a much smaller reach of fewer than 10,000 followers, are also an important group for brand marketing. They are often regular customers who companies have converted into brand advocates, giving them free products or small payments.

“In China’s influencer industry, you can find a price for almost everything: a sponsored campaign that looks like it’s native content or a tiny post by a micro-influencer,” said WalkTheChat’s Chen.

Another effective way for brands to reach customers in China is via groups on messaging platforms such as Tencent’s WeChat, where they are limited to 500 users. This allows brands to interact with consumers in a more intimate environment, but some western companies see them as offering an uncertain return on investment.

When asked for an interview via WeChat, Abby replied that a dedicated member of staff would respond and sent a picture of the cartoon mouse Jerry holding a flower.

Asked how international brands could win her back, Zhang, the consumer working for a foreign company, replied: “When it comes to switching brands, I usually look at reviews on Douyin and Xiaohongshu. It all depends on whether the brands can get beauty bloggers to promote them.”
 

Hendrik_2000

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The history of Chinese Oil industry in 5 minutes. though Yumen was the first oil Field It was not until Daqing was exploited that Chinese oil industry take off. As usual western expert does not believe China has any significant oil bearing field. For you who is too young to remember the era, Here is the story of "iron man Wang". He built oil rig with his bare hand. Without those find China will never experience economic take off of 80' and 90's

How China ended its dry crude oil period after 1949​

In its early years, the People's Republic of China faced a dire shortage of crude oil. In 1949, when the country was founded, it produced only 120,000 tonnes of oil, so small an amount that it had to buy more from the Soviet Union. Foreign geologists once asserted that China was a country short of crude oil, an argument widely believed until the late 1950s when an oil field was discovered in Daqing, northeast China's Heilongjiang Province, which later became known as the oil capital of China. For thousands of oil workers in Daqing, contributing to the country's industrial take-off meant the world to them.


China's First Self-operated 1,500m Deep-water Gas Field Starts Operation​

China was so poor back then they have to hand pulled a motor in this video, compare that to the sophistication of china's oil industry today
The world's first 100,000-ton deep-sea semi-submersible oil production and storage platform, named "Deep Sea No.1," started production in the South China Sea on Friday. The Deep Sea No.1 energy station, built by China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC), is used to develop the Lingshui 17-2 gas field, 150 kilometers off the southern island province of Hainan, with an average operational water depth of 1,500 meters.
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texx1

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More like fake news.

Someone still made those phones. Wonder who.

The SCMP being dishonest as per usual, decided not to go there.

They did not want to do some real reporting.
Unfortunately, Ofilm (欧菲光) losing apple supplying contract is not fake news. It was also reported by domestic Chinese media.

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Ofilm's own public statement highlighted the loss of supplying contract from an important client, which almost every tech commentator knew it was apple.

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horse

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Unfortunately, Ofilm (欧菲光) losing apple supplying contract is not fake news. It was also reported by domestic Chinese media.

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Ofilm's own public statement highlighted the loss of supplying contract from an important client, which almost every tech commentator knew it was apple.

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People lose business all the time.

People gain business all the time.

So what is the real story here?

The real story is Apple, where did they go to make those phones?

As for Ofilm, doesn't China own 70%-80% of all world cell phone production? They probably can manage.

People lose business all the time.

People gain business all the time.

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What is that expression in business about the customer?

The customer is always right!

Buy something from the internet, can we return it? Of course, because we as the customer, who is always right.

So who is the most important person in that story? It should be Apple Inc, because they are the customer.

For that story in the SCMP to be a real business story, then they should talk about what the most important person in the story was doing. And they did not.

That should be fake news.

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Lastly, just like the textbook said.

This is equilibrium.

Introduce an external factor, (ie tariffs) and the equilibrium changes, what happens?

To make a long story short, there will be winners and losers, created as we go from one equilibrium to another.

For some reason, the SCMP will focus on only one loser, and not go bother looking for a winner.

Those reporters do not have a clue, and do not know what they write about, and they did not pass that course.
 
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texx1

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People lose business all the time.

People gain business all the time.

So what is the real story here?

The real story is Apple, where did they go to make those phones?

As for Ofilm, doesn't China own 70%-80% of all world cell phone production? They probably can manage.

People lose business all the time.

People gain business all the time.

SCMP has gone down a level in political reliability after the crackdown on Ma's empire. Still we should be more careful at using the fake news label.
 

Kancil

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Loh!!! The Western mafia is using their middle east mouthpiece to threaten Iran. Looks very desperate. Since the Sino-Iran 20 years strategic agreement was signed, Uncle Sam is desperately trying to get back into the game. The oil purchase agreement priced in RMB is causing sleepless nights for Uncle Sam. Looks like the beginning of the end for Dollar hegemony. With the Sino-Iran agreement in hand, Iran holds a very strong card. The evil US sanctions had been rendered toothless.
 

Xizor

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Global Wealth report 2021 is out (click the pdf report, free)
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Interesting report

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China in 2020 is roughly
* 6x of India wealth
* 15x of Africa wealth
* 7x of South America
* 55% of North America wealth, and 60% of USA wealth
* 73% of Europe wealth


Number of millionaires (I am not proud of it)

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Be proud of the millionaires as they could be entrepreneurs and startup founders.

But Billionaires is debatable.
 
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