Chinese Economics Thread

[voyager1]

IMO globaltimes is a pretty terrible publication with lots of unprofessional-sounding, unjournalistic terms. It doesn't really change the minds of americans or other english readers who will take one look at it and dismiss it as a tabloid.

Chinese publications in english are very far from the levels of NYT, Al Jazeera, DW, BBC, who can blatantly lie while sounding nuanced and professional.

You are beating a dead horse here.

We all know about how terrible Chinese state media are for promoting China's views internationally

Eventually there will be a reform of the media ala "Chinese media development in a New Era" but it will take a long time to happen

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

IMO globaltimes is a pretty terrible publication with lots of unprofessional-sounding, unjournalistic terms. It doesn't really change the minds of americans or other english readers who will take one look at it and dismiss it as a tabloid.

Chinese publications in english are very far from the levels of NYT, Al Jazeera, DW, BBC, who can blatantly lie while sounding nuanced and professional.

It has nothing to do with being "journalistic" more like being seen and read by Western countries as "mouth piece" of the Red Commie "Regime" of China.

Do you honestly suggest that if Global Times were to write their reporting in a manner and style -- copy western narrative driven propaganda -- that somehow the paper will become more palatable and acceptable in the hearts and minds of the western audiences, especially Americans? Lol that's a hoot. It's like saying if only Fox News was more "professional sounding" the Libs in America would embrace that channel and not be dismissed as right wing echo chamber. The same can be said of CNN, MSNBC, by the conservatives or right wing leaning folks in America that have contemptuous views on those "Fake news" establishments.

If you want a Chinese publication to act and perform word sophisty like a western publication look no further than SCMP. Chinese news publications regardless of the journalistic standards or accuracy of the reporting can't and will not be legitimized in the eyes, ears, hearst, and minds of the west for obvious geopolitical reasons. For as long as the CPC is in power and for as long as the P.R.C. is unending the so called "international rules based order" a.k.a. White power the current struggle will and shall always remain.

What's important and critical for China is to ensure and allow it's stories, narratives shape the conversation in the developing world like Africa, the Middle East, and countries on it's periphery like ASEAN. The west does not constitute the world, not in population and certainly not in the future of economic growth of the world.

 

[Kancil]

G7 leaders adopt ‘Build Back Better World’ plan to rival China’s belt and road strategy.​

The Chinese must be secretly very please that the West is finally putting up money to develop infrastructures in developing countries to compliment their effort. When the infrastructures is finally done and finished, the West will realize to their horror that the trade flow would be mainly between China and the developing countries as the Chinese is going to out-compete them.

 

[Dolcevita]

G7 leaders adopt ‘Build Back Better World’ plan to rival China’s belt and road strategy.​

The Chinese must be secretly very please that the West is finally putting up money to develop infrastructures in developing countries to compliment their effort. When the infrastructures is finally done and finished, the West will realize to their horror that the trade flow would be mainly between China and the developing countries as the Chinese is going to out-compete them.

I do not see anything wrong with building infrastructure. The big winners will be the underdeveloped countries and emerging market countries if done altruistically. It becomes problematic though once it is used as political tool through debt diplomacy aka world bank and imf to punish non-western compliant countries by imposing austerity measures, etc.

As is, the anglos are already demanding countries to ban huawei and reject chinese investments and aid, etc. They will in time also gain more leverage to impose their will through the "BUILD BACK BETTER WORLD" Debt plan.

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[Bellum_Romanum]

China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) is set to boost global gross domestic product (GDP) by more than $7 trillion a year by 2040, and benefit the US most even though it is not directly participating in it, a report has found.​

Each of up to 56 countries will see their annual GDP boosted by more than $10bn a year by 2040 thanks to the BRI, which is China’s intensive overseas infrastructure programme intended to facilitate trade between it and the rest of the world.

Has anyone read this report that was published 2 years ago in which as the headline suggested that U.S. will also benefit greatly from the B.R.I. along with the U.K. despite this study and the enormous potential economic benefits that would net the majority of our world the mother f..ng western world lead by the U.S. seemed unable, unwilling to let this happen because they will no longer be in the driver seat. If they are no longer the one in the driver seat then it's better to throw the world and potential millions of lives into chaos and misery.

War is the only thing this monkeys understand and I hope as well as fervently believe that China must arm itself to the teeth by enhancing it's second strike capability as to leave no doubt in the hearts and minds of America and her allies that if she goes so does the world. It'll be M.A.D. all over again. It's sad but that's the reality we all are facing.

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[AssassinsMace]

Western newspapers intellectualize their racism. The New York Times, the paper of record for the world, lied about WMDs in Iraq that started an illegal war. Do you see any of these Western rags calling for human rights tribunals? I'll give you a secret... Chinese news media will never change the minds of American and English readers because only to them white people get to disseminate the news. If the West doesn't have the final say, it's not worthy of being publish for the public to read. I love the Global Times because it does exactly to them what the Western news media does to China. If you need to change the minds of the West means you give power over you to the West. You acknowledge their superiority and therefore they will never change because there's no consequences. Why does the West hate China's Belt and Road? It's because they have no say. They have no power on who China gives money to. Back when the Chinese masterfully used Australian war crimes against them, Siegecrossbow posted an editorial from a Afghan newspaper praising China for bringing attention to a crime that would've gone ignored and the West had to acknowledge it. It could have gone further but the Chinese are guilty too because they only brought it up as a swipe on Australia. The Chinese media should have their journalists reporting a counter to the Western propaganda all over the world and not just because it wants to take reactionary swipe at the West. Does China value the praise from the Afghan newspaper or do they only value and care about what Westerners think of them? I can see all the road blocks for China in the future having to do with wanting the worthless respect and acceptance of the West. China will always be stuck with the likes of Japan, South Korea, India and whoever else who battle with each other on who the West likes more as the only measurement of their worth is how they feel superior to everyone else. Just as long as they're superior to everyone else not Western, that's all that matters to them. How pathetic.

The West embraced human rights not because they had an awakening and realized all human life was important. They were forced to because of China. The 1949 Communist Revolution made them realize that could happen at every one of their colonies after WWII weakened them especially since the communists were using Western colonialism as a rallying cry against them. They had to change or face a world revolt against them. Did China seek the West's approval for this before they started to send money and weapons around the world to start insurrections against them? Don't believe their embracement of human rights was sincere since after decolonizing they set up a puppet dictator to rule their former colonies denying democracy. All they were doing was saving their asses. And just imagine if those Chinese that value the West's opinion had their way. There would be no human rights today and most of the world would still be under Western colonial rule having a basic disregard for human life.

 

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[MrCrazyBoyRavi]

Western newspapers intellectualize their racism. The New York Times, the paper of record for the world, lied about WMDs in Iraq that started an illegal war. Do you see any of these Western rags calling for human rights tribunals? I'll give you a secret... Chinese news media will never change the minds of American and English readers because only to them white people get to disseminate the news. If the West doesn't have the final say, it's not worthy of being publish for the public to read. I love the Global Times because it does exactly to them what the Western news media does to China. If you need to change the minds of the West means you give power over you to the West. You acknowledge their superiority and therefore they will never change because there's no consequences. Why does the West hate China's Belt and Road? It's because they have no say. They have no power on who China gives money to. Back when the Chinese masterfully used Australian war crimes against them, Siegecrossbow posted an editorial from a Afghan newspaper praising China for bringing attention to a crime that would've gone ignored and the West had to acknowledge it. It could have gone further but the Chinese are guilty too because they only brought it up as a swipe on Australia. The Chinese media should have their journalists reporting a counter to the Western propaganda all over the world and not just because it wants to take reactionary swipe at the West. Does China value the praise from the Afghan newspaper or do they only value and care about what Westerners think of them? I can see all the road blocks for China in the future having to do with wanting the worthless respect and acceptance of the West. China will always be stuck with the likes of Japan, South Korea, India and whoever else who battle with each other on who the West likes more as the only measurement of their worth is how they feel superior to everyone else. Just as long as they're superior to everyone else not Western, that's all that matters to them. How pathetic.

The West embraced human rights not because they had an awakening and realized all human life was important. They were forced to because of China. The 1949 Communist Revolution made them realize that could happen at every one of their colonies after WWII weakened them especially since the communists were using Western colonialism as a rallying cry against them. They had to change or face a world revolt against them. Did China seek the West's approval for this before they started to send money and weapons around the world to start insurrections against them? Don't believe their embracement of human rights was sincere since after decolonizing they set up a puppet dictator to rule their former colonies denying democracy. All they were doing was saving their asses. And just imagine if those Chinese that value the West's opinion had their way. There would be no human rights today and most of the world would still be under Western colonial rule having a basic disregard for human life.

Truth. Especially the part where asian nations keep seeking approval from west to prove their worthiness.

 

[MrCrazyBoyRavi]

State media isn’t the only medium for propaganda. In social media there are millions of content creator and trend setters who keep churning pro west and anti china videos, tweets and articles. Most of these people aren’t funded or directed by CIA. They do it either to be popular or by sense of duty to their nation, race. There are very few content creator who make pro china contents and most of them are either banned by lot of complains or not quiet popular in western media platforms.

due to china’s great firewall, this organic freelance propaganda arm of china in cutoff. So we are hearing only western view in western media. BJP IT cell and hyper nationalistic indians literally drown any anti india news and flood the internet with pro indian contents. Just look at IMDB rating for shitty indian movies. Almost all of them are above 80% rating while awesome hollywood movies are just 70%. China need to unlease its citizen to do PR plasic surgery into the tarnished image of china in the world.

 

[escobar]

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